UK Defence Forum

News, History, Discussions and Debates on UK Defence.

Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Contains threads on Royal Air Force equipment of the past, present and future.
downsizer
Member
Posts: 827
Joined: 02 May 2015, 08:03

Re: C130J

Postby downsizer » 11 Jul 2017, 20:44

Surprised there hasn't been a mention but 2 Js being sold to Bangladesh.

Smokey
Member
Posts: 272
Joined: 18 Feb 2017, 13:33
Location: Cyprus

Re: C130J

Postby Smokey » 11 Jul 2017, 21:17

downsizer wrote:Surprised there hasn't been a mention but 2 Js being sold to Bangladesh.


At a flyaway price, I presume?

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/19809/ ... WUyiLHTWhA

Have any other J's been withdrawn yet, DS?

User avatar
Gabriele
Senior Member
Posts: 2000
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:53
Location: Italy
Contact:

Re: C130J

Postby Gabriele » 11 Jul 2017, 21:39

Several, actually.

The official passage of 30 Sqn to A400M should be near, although i don't know the date. Maybe Downsizer does.
You might also know me as Liger30, from that great forum than MP.net was.

Arma Pacis Fulcra.
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

downsizer
Member
Posts: 827
Joined: 02 May 2015, 08:03

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby downsizer » 12 Jul 2017, 14:52

Gabriele wrote:Maybe Downsizer does.


No, sorry.

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 6838
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby SKB » 14 Jul 2017, 14:42


A deal worth £110 million has been struck with Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group for work on the Hercules C-130J aircraft to ensure it can continue supporting British forces around the world.

The work will extend the aircraft’s out-of-service date to 2035 and sustain 330 jobs in Cambridge.

User avatar
shark bait
Senior Member
Posts: 6107
Joined: 05 May 2015, 21:18
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby shark bait » 14 Jul 2017, 16:36

Good news.

I wonder if by then Atlas will be as awesome as Hercules....
@LandSharkUK

dmereifield
Senior Member
Posts: 2453
Joined: 03 Aug 2016, 20:29
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby dmereifield » 14 Jul 2017, 17:32

SKB wrote:https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/885791655940558850
A deal worth £110 million has been struck with Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group for work on the Hercules C-130J aircraft to ensure it can continue supporting British forces around the world.

The work will extend the aircraft’s out-of-service date to 2035 and sustain 330 jobs in Cambridge.


Sustain, or create, 330 jobs? The report I saw said create....

Defiance
Member
Posts: 596
Joined: 07 Oct 2015, 20:52
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby Defiance » 14 Jul 2017, 18:07

Sustain most likely, is the work at Marshall planned to jump such that they can justify the expansion?

Granted they'll be getting older and probably need more work, but we're expecting a drop of what 8-10 airframes? Wouldn't be surprised if that didn't balance eachother out.

Dahedd
Member
Posts: 571
Joined: 06 May 2015, 11:18

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby Dahedd » 16 Jul 2017, 11:06

Pie in the Sky thinking here. Just how knackered are the J's?

1. Would there be an argument for retaining some more. Using the UK aid budget, hand than over to DfiD ? They can use & fund them for aid relief.

2. Coastguard/UK border force. Upgrade to SAR/MPA song the lines of USCG ? Help enforce the maritime border post Brexit.

3. UK Spectre Gunship/Harvest Hawk style tanker for special forces support.

4. Hand then over to a joint NATO transport wing. Say based with the C17s in Hungary.

None of the above will likely ever happen but its something to think about.

sea_eagle
Member
Posts: 174
Joined: 06 May 2015, 13:57
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby sea_eagle » 17 Jul 2017, 13:56

Does anyone have a dummies guide (diagram/pics)to changing a centre wing box on a C-130J? How much of the aircraft do they have to take apart to replace it? Anyone know how long it is planned to take to refit all of them?

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 6838
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby SKB » 17 Jul 2017, 14:01

Maybe Haynes have a manual?

Smokey
Member
Posts: 272
Joined: 18 Feb 2017, 13:33
Location: Cyprus

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby Smokey » 17 Jul 2017, 14:11

1x Allen key, some elbow grease and a BFO hoist.

MRCA
Member
Posts: 186
Joined: 29 Apr 2017, 22:47
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby MRCA » 17 Jul 2017, 21:26

Not quite step by step but it will give you an idea of what they will do on a c130 cwb replacement program

http://www.lockheedmartin.co.uk/content ... stries.pdf

sea_eagle
Member
Posts: 174
Joined: 06 May 2015, 13:57
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby sea_eagle » 18 Jul 2017, 11:47

MRCA wrote:Not quite step by step but it will give you an idea of what they will do on a c130 cwb replacement program

Smokey wrote:1x Allen key, some elbow grease and a BFO hoist

Right got that thanks both, think I am good to go, just need to find a C-130 which needs a new CWB :lol:

Smokey
Member
Posts: 272
Joined: 18 Feb 2017, 13:33
Location: Cyprus

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby Smokey » 30 Aug 2017, 19:37

Bahrain has purchased a couple of ex-RAF C130J's

http://www.janes.com/article/73437/bahr ... af-c-130js

dmereifield
Senior Member
Posts: 2453
Joined: 03 Aug 2016, 20:29
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby dmereifield » 30 Aug 2017, 20:07

Smokey wrote:Bahrain has purchased a couple of ex-RAF C130J's

http://www.janes.com/article/73437/bahr ... af-c-130js


No mention of sale price, anyone know a likely ball park figure?

User avatar
ArmChairCivvy
Senior Member
Posts: 15276
Joined: 05 May 2015, 21:34
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 30 Aug 2017, 20:28

dmereifield wrote: anyone know a likely ball park figure?


" the UK Ministry of Defence has confirmed [...] the government-to-government deal. It said the value of the sale is commercially sensitive and cannot be released."
- could just mean that more than the 2+2 deals are being negotiated
- none of these announcements say whether the planes come from the "to be retired" fleet or the "to be retained C4 fleet"
Ever-lasting truths: Multi-year budgets/ planning by necessity have to address the painful questions; more often than not the Either-Or prevails over Both-And.
If everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking (attributed to Patton)

bobp
Senior Member
Posts: 2196
Joined: 06 May 2015, 07:52
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby bobp » 30 Aug 2017, 20:54

Up to 30m pounds for two for Bahrain and also two possible sales to Bangladesh. It was in yesterdays papers I believe. Some murmuring about human rights abuse as well in the article.

dmereifield
Senior Member
Posts: 2453
Joined: 03 Aug 2016, 20:29
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby dmereifield » 30 Aug 2017, 21:28

Thanks for info

R686
Senior Member
Posts: 1859
Joined: 28 May 2015, 02:43
Location: Australia

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby R686 » 31 Aug 2017, 10:29


Pongoglo
Member
Posts: 231
Joined: 14 Jun 2015, 10:39
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby Pongoglo » 05 Sep 2017, 15:51

Any idea why we are flogging off the C5's whilst retaining the 'shorter' C4's - the article says they are more heavily used, the shorter C4's that is ?

"The RAF’s 10 C-130J C5 aircraft are being retired early, but 14 more heavily used, shorter-body C4 variants are being retained and upgraded."

necessary evil
Member
Posts: 24
Joined: 31 Jan 2016, 14:49
Location: Spain

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby necessary evil » 05 Sep 2017, 16:04

The C.4 is the stretched one.

Timmymagic
Senior Member
Posts: 2004
Joined: 07 May 2015, 23:57
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby Timmymagic » 05 Sep 2017, 17:40

Pongoglo wrote:"The RAF’s 10 C-130J C5 aircraft are being retired early, but 14 more heavily used, shorter-body C4 variants are being retained and upgraded.


Janes is (depressingly) wrong. The C.4 is the C-130J-30 with the 15 ft extension. The C.5 is the C-130J standard length. The numbers for sale are correct though.

User avatar
ArmChairCivvy
Senior Member
Posts: 15276
Joined: 05 May 2015, 21:34
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 05 Sep 2017, 19:07

Timmymagic wrote:Janes is (depressingly) wrong.


And I was using my hard-earned pocket money in the '60s and 70's to buy their previous year's editions... 5 p a week did not quite stretch to the sticker price.
- well, everyone is human
Ever-lasting truths: Multi-year budgets/ planning by necessity have to address the painful questions; more often than not the Either-Or prevails over Both-And.
If everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking (attributed to Patton)

User avatar
The Armchair Soldier
Site Admin
Posts: 1652
Joined: 29 Apr 2015, 08:31
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Lockheed C-130 Hercules (RAF)

Postby The Armchair Soldier » 11 Sep 2017, 13:19

A C-130J has joined other RAF air mobility aircraft in Barbados to support relief efforts:
Image


Return to “Royal Air Force”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests