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arfah wrote:
The Armchair Soldier wrote:The PM has just claimed in Parliament that the Tornado's RAPTOR pod accounts for 60% of all surveillance intel against ISIL. Quite impressive if true.
He's also stated at 12:50 in the HOC that;

"A Tornado hovering over the Isle of Wight can read the hands on Big Ben such is the capability of the Raptor pod."
Seems the nightmares about the 2010 SDSR backlash haven't left him then...The haunting of the Harrier ;)

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How can a Tornado Hover over the Isle of Wight. I remember seeing a photo taken in the 1970's over the Isle of white and indeed you could read the hands of big ben. The camera was fitted to a Canberra sadly now out of service.

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He probably meant 'circling', not hovering.

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How do you fit the big pod that the boxy brute (Tornado) has no problem carrying onto the much sleeker cigar called Typhoon?

Not easily, but the answer could be in the making:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/utas-sets-sights-on-raptor-integration-with-typhoon-415108/
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bobp wrote:I remember seeing a photo taken in the 1970's over the Isle of white and indeed you could read the hands of big ben. The camera was fitted to a Canberra sadly now out of service.
This one:
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Was from from Canberra PR9 flying at 47,000ft over the IOW. Looking at the design of the vans it was taken later than the 1970s however - possibly ~2006 when the Canberra was taken out of service.
http://www.airshows.co.uk/features/2006 ... eployment/

The Mail wrote about RAPTOR having this capability before:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... Wight.html

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@Wrekin762 It wasn't that picture the one I saw showed more of the bridge and less of the Houses of Parliament. It was also taken at a lower altitude as you could read the writing on the London Bus. It was published in a RAF magazine at the time.

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Ten after one, so all the MP's fast asleep after their liquid lunch.

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The Armchair Soldier wrote:The PM has just claimed in Parliament that the Tornado's RAPTOR pod accounts for 60% of all surveillance intel against ISIL. Quite impressive if true.
It shouldn't surprise many, it's very much an impressive bit of kit and therefore in high demand.

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Always good to piss off the armourers getting them to do several cRaptor re-roles. :twisted:

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What will happen to the Tornado back seat Navigators when Tornado retires? Will they be retrained to do another task?

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Reuters reporting that Germany are considering manufacturing a Tornado successor, possibly to be a Eurofighter project.
Germany plans to develop new fighter jet to replace Tornado
Sun, Dec 20 17:09 PM GMT


BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany plans to develop a new fighter jet to replace Tornado jets in the long term and it aims to hold initial talks with European partners in 2016 about what features they want in the aircraft, according to a document seen by Reuters on Sunday.

A draft document from the Defence Ministry on 'military aviation strategy' said it was still unclear whether the new jet would be manned or unmanned. It said it was also possible that the jet would be designed for both options and then be flown with or without a pilot depending on the type of deployment.

As it would be a European project, it is likely that one or more European companies would be chosen to develop the jet. The Tornado jet, which Germany has been using since 1981 - although it now also has the newer Eurofighter jet - was also made in an international consortium called Panavia.
http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/id ... 0?irpc=932

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Who with?

The F35 has effectively neutered the European fast jet industry. UK and Italy are committed to the F35. Spain doesn't have the resources but wants the F35. France seem content with Rafale and upgraded Mirage jets. The other smaller nations seem to be headding to F35 too.

Sounds like they're going to be getting their own gripen variant to me.
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It might be an attempt to enter FCAS by any other name.
You might also know me as Liger30, from that great forum than MP.net was.

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Gabriele wrote:It might be an attempt to enter FCAS by any other name.
Perhaps it is.
It will likley need another strong economy to get the project off the ground any way. Seems like a long time to stretch tornado out.
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Military Aircraft: Safety Measures:Written question - 25356

Asked by Douglas Chapman(Dunfermline and West Fife)
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, how many (a) Tornados and (b) Typhoons are fitted with the TCAAS II Collision Warning System.
Answered by: Mr Philip Dunne
I refer the hon. Member to the answers I gave on 3 February 2016 to Question 24361 and on 1 February 2016 to Question 24213, to the hon. Member for Islington South and Finsbury (Ms Thornberry).
Relevant documents here:
http://www.parliament.uk/business/publi ... -02/25356/

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Twenty-five years since the Royal Air Force helped liberate Kuwait from Saddam Hussein’s forces, an RAF Tornado GR4 has been painted in the iconic Gulf War ‘desert pink’ paint scheme to honour the aircraft type’s almost continuous operational service since then.
The ‘desert pink’ Tornado, number ZG750, is based at RAF Lossiemouth with XV(R) Squadron, which saw active service during Operation Granby, the UK’s codename for the Gulf War. The aircraft carries 11 ‘battle honours’ on its tail, recalling the Tornado’s almost continuous service on operations worldwide since 1991.
Read More: http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/raf- ... s-19022016

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Oh that's cracking. Like the scheme, the list of ops on the tail just shows how active the fleet has been.

Cannot wait to see him buzzing my house.

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Anyone know which squadron will disband in 2018 when the first F35 squadron arrives at Marham? If im right the other two squadrons will remain until march 2019 (by that time the two new Typhoon tranche 1 squadrons should of stood up)

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12. Though I'd much prefer the brown stars of 31 to go.

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RAF drops EPW-III bunker buster bombs on ISIS positions in IRAQ.


http://www.janes.com/article/59799/uk-d ... amic-state

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