Boeing P-8A Poseidon (MRA Mk.1) (RAF)

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Simon82 wrote:Just in case anybody missed this and might be interested. Compatibility testing of LRASM on the US Navy P-8s...
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... ventually/

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This bit would suggest bomb bay... what is there to check with pylons as the attachment points are standardised?
"fit checks of LRASM with the P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft were conducted about one year ago.

About this, here is what Capt. Will Hargreaves told us: [“]Fit checks are often conducted to determine if the store is physically compatible with the aircraft in advance of any engineering work."
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It's pylons. Even with standardized pylons, fit checks still happen. Have to check ground handling clearances, load distribution, etc.

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dmereifield wrote:
Tinman wrote:We will be getting a further buy of 8, announced after the election.
Would be nice, but sounds either too good to be true (with additional funds made available to acquire them) or a bit crap if it means cuts elsewhere to fund them. Either way, why wait until after the GE to announce it?
And, if it's not Boris as PM the likelihood of more of anything for defence after the GE isn't looking high
It’s a done deal, just wait for the SDSR2020

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I would love that. I very much struggle to believe, but i'd love that.

I suppose Sentinel would go for sure in that scenario, though. No ifs, no buts. Given a few AAS pods on P-8, it wouldn't be a bad deal at all, though. In fact, where should i sign for it to happen...?
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Boeing will need a few military contracts thrown its way considering the mess they’ve gotten themselves into with 737.

Especially now that the NTSB are requesting the nacelle is replaced on all 737ng following the fatal southwest accident last year. Not a got time to be associating ones self with the 737 brand.

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SW1 wrote:Boeing will need a few military contracts thrown its way considering the mess they’ve gotten themselves into with 737.

Especially now that the NTSB are requesting the nacelle is replaced on all 737ng following the fatal southwest accident last year. Not a got time to be associating ones self with the 737 brand.
The P-8 has bespoke nacelles and wing mountings to accommodate larger power generators. With any luck they differ sufficiently in design not to be part of any fleet-wide recall.

Still if I was on the Boeing Commercial board, I think I'd be taking my coffee Irish at every opportunity....

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Jensy wrote: I'd be taking my coffee Irish at every opportunity
Definitely not with Canadian whisky, considering how well they managed to mix that episode up :)
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That would be nice if true, I've surprised we would order them in a batch rather 1 at a time with the left over budget from the year.

Any news on British weapon integration with the contract?

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Gabriele wrote:I would love that. I very much struggle to believe, but i'd love that.
Lad that I go mountain biking with is just back from a 16 week deployment in Florida with the P8s. He's said before that there's expectation of another 3 being bought, the RAF apparently have the serial numbers allocated already. Of course this could be scuppered by the election and/or any Scottish Independence vote where by they'll be packing their bags & moving "everything" South.

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Tinman wrote:just wait for the SDSR2020
Seen any mentions - other than this one - of any such?
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P8 Pride of Moray will land in February at kinloss first bit ironic


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UK first P8 to arrive next month...………………..
https://www.forces.net/news/rafs-new-p- ... next-month

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I really hope the next SDSR adds at least three more P-8s to the planned fleet. With out dwindling escort fleet, these force multipliers are essential. Of course we could purchase a number of the Global Hawk maritime variant like Australia, to provide persistent patrol coverage and queuing the P-8s to targets of interest.

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Global Hawk should be avoided, the UK is less interested in what's on the surface than Australia. The focus has to be on P8 plain and simple, then work with some commercial companies to watch the surface.
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Protector more than able and is capable of being armed.

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Forgot about them, but my main point was we need more than the nine P-8s on order, as I think we all agree here.

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16 sounds about right (for now)

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Would love it, but honestly this coming SDSR I see more as "What will avoid being cut?" rather than as a shopping list.

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RetroSicotte wrote:Would love it, but honestly this coming SDSR I see more as "What will avoid being cut?" rather than as a shopping list.
I'd say they got ya just where they want ya

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RetroSicotte wrote:Would love it, but honestly this coming SDSR I see more as "What will avoid being cut?" rather than as a shopping list.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a fudge, neither one thing nor the other.

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This whole P8 purchase is a complete and utter waste of money, and if it's just me that doesn't want anymore of the bloody things, then I'm comfortable with that.

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Digger22 wrote:This whole P8 purchase is a complete and utter waste of money, and if it's just me that doesn't want anymore of the bloody things, then I'm comfortable with that.
Any particular reason you're not keen?

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Digger22 wrote:This whole P8 purchase is a complete and utter waste of money, and if it's just me that doesn't want anymore of the bloody things, then I'm comfortable with that.
What were the other options? Anything else out there, with the exception of the Japanese P-1, were glorified Coast Guard aircraft.

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Digger22 wrote:This whole P8 purchase is a complete and utter waste of money, and if it's just me that doesn't want anymore of the bloody things, then I'm comfortable with that.
But why?
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