ArmChairCivvy wrote:Ron5 wrote:methinks you are talking out ya ass!
If you could read (sounds familiar, no ) what I said: I said he said; not did
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May 14, 2020 — We get parts from all over the place. ... The president offered his summary of the F-35 supply chain in an interview with Fox News ... its 300,000 parts made around the world, at dispersed and redundant manufacturing plants.
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May 15, 2020 — Donald Trump suggested F-35 production should only take place in the US; Thousands of Australian jobs rely on local production of aircraft parts; The current ... "I don't think it can play out with all the contractual stuff in the ...
Trump hints at bringing overseas production of F-35 back to US
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May 14, 2020 — We get parts from all over the place. It's so crazy. We should make everything in the United States.” Pressed by Bartiromo on whether companies ...
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May 14, 2020 — It'll take time for them stand up manufacturing facilities and certify new parts. Lockheed representatives told GAO “it would take over a year to .
I agree that only 48 have been contracted for thus far. However that does not mean that it will be the total number.
to be ordered. A similar point of view might suggest that there will only be 3 x T26, because only 3 have been contracted for (even though names have been chosen for a further 5). 48 x F35B is just as unlikely to be the final number, as is 3 x T26.
Ron5 wrote:Have all 48 been contracted? I don't know. But it's far from 138 isn't it? We Americans read UK newspapers and we know darned well the chances of all 138 being purchased hover around zero.
Originally the UK was going to be the biggest F-35 operator after the US, where are they now in the list, they ain't #2 any more? 4th or 5th?
Scimitar54 wrote:There is also just a chance that experience with the “48 x F35B” may just lead to a re-evaluation of our “Carrier Strike” requirements in that the “remaining 90” requirement may turn out to be for F35C. It would certainly make sense for us to prove that the F35B will meet our “Carrier Strike” and “Fleet Air Defence” needs before closing the door on the other option.
Defiance wrote:Personal opinion - they'll slowly replace their F/A-18 fleet over time with Typhoon, they'll ramp up spending on Typhoon development to be relevant for SCAF workshare talks and AV-8B will leave service without a direct replacement due to lack of funding
We all saw how France turned the screws on Germany to avoid F-35, I suspect they'll do something similar with Spain
dmereifield wrote:Sounds about right. What doesn't quite add up is the current order book keeping the Spanish production line going until 2030. How many have the got on the books? And just how slowly are they building them?
dmereifield wrote:On that note, what's the current state of play for the UK production line? How long can we keep that going for? Is it just the Qatar order (24)that they've got to keep them going?
Defiance wrote:dmereifield wrote:Sounds about right. What doesn't quite add up is the current order book keeping the Spanish production line going until 2030. How many have the got on the books? And just how slowly are they building them?
So the line closed in January this year with their last delivery but I imagine as many staff as possible got shunted over to their Tranche 1 upgrade program. If I had to guess, they'll be popping these out around 6-8 aircraft a year.
That's why I believe we'll probably see additional production lots put forward to keep the line on life supportdmereifield wrote:On that note, what's the current state of play for the UK production line? How long can we keep that going for? Is it just the Qatar order (24)that they've got to keep them going?
IIRC Qatar deliveries are 2022-2025 with the production line finishing orders in 2024. Sub-assembly production like front fuselage sections may be sustained for longer on German/Spanish orders.
Only chance of extending that date is either Finland or KSA batch 2, i'll leave that up to you to decide if that's promising or not
ArmChairCivvy wrote:They are getting new ones, I was thinking about our retrofits
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