UK Defence Forum

News, History, Discussions and Debates on UK Defence.

Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Contains threads on Royal Air Force equipment of the past, present and future.
Opinion3
Member
Posts: 350
Joined: 06 May 2015, 23:01

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby Opinion3 » 26 Dec 2017, 22:08

Those at the top get there because they are able to make difficult decisions. My proposal is they wouldn't need to........

topman
Member
Posts: 356
Joined: 07 May 2015, 20:56
Location: Tokelau

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby topman » 27 Dec 2017, 07:10

Really not worth it, there's not that many that c17s can't cope and it's good at its various jobs. I don't see how it would be worth it.

User avatar
The Armchair Soldier
Site Admin
Posts: 1507
Joined: 29 Apr 2015, 08:31
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby The Armchair Soldier » 11 Apr 2018, 13:21



More images and videos have been posted in the F-35 topic: viewtopic.php?f=45&t=45&start=2955#p65567

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 6119
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby SKB » 06 Jun 2018, 21:52


(235FireFly) 6/6/2018
A group of Royal Air Force Airbus KC2 Voyagers ( A330-243 MRTT ) land and takeoff from Gander International Airport ( CYQX ), Canada as part of the convoy delivering the first Lockheed Martin F-35 s to the United Kingdom.


ZZ331 and ZZ335 were used to refuel the four F-35's

benny14
Member
Posts: 556
Joined: 16 Oct 2017, 16:07
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby benny14 » 07 Jun 2018, 01:07

SKB wrote:ZZ331 and ZZ335 were used to refuel the four F-35's

A third voyager was involved. It came out of South Carolina and escorted the F-35s up to Canada and then landed there at Gander while the other two took over.

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 6119
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby SKB » 07 Jun 2018, 01:55

I think that one was ZZ330 on flight RRR9101, it had the red RAF 100 logo on the tail.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... 0#11a10936

benny14
Member
Posts: 556
Joined: 16 Oct 2017, 16:07
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby benny14 » 07 Jun 2018, 09:32

SKB wrote:I think that one was ZZ330 on flight RRR9101, it had the red RAF 100 logo on the tail.

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 6119
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby SKB » 17 Jul 2018, 19:50


(Forces TV) 12th July 2018
Operation Shader began as a humanitarian aid mission but has grown into a complicated mission to try and defeat the Islamic State. Since 2014, RAF aircrew based in Cyprus have been flying daily missions over Iraq and Syria as part of a coalition of nations.

Lord Jim
Senior Member
Posts: 3956
Joined: 10 Dec 2015, 02:15
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby Lord Jim » 22 Jul 2018, 15:05

Voyager's made the front page of the Daily Mail!

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 6119
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby SKB » 22 Jul 2018, 15:13

Lord Jim wrote:Voyager's made the front page of the Daily Mail!


This?
Image

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... broad.html

Little J
Member
Posts: 583
Joined: 02 May 2015, 14:35
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby Little J » 22 Jul 2018, 15:17

:lolno: :clap:

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 6119
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby SKB » 22 Jul 2018, 16:18

AirTanker website quote:
The ‘core’ RAF Voyager fleet is made up of nine aircraft. Of these, at any one time, eight fly on the Military Aircraft Register (MAR) and one is tasked, minus military equipment, to fly on the Civilian Aircraft Register (CAR). The RAF has optional surge capability rights on a further five aircraft.

This civilian aircraft is operated on a ’charter’ basis to the MOD by AirTanker under its own Air Operators’ Certificate but with the advantages that come with exclusive usage. The aircraft can also be pulled-in by the RAF if required to support air transport movements and if needed, moved to the MAR to support additional air-to-air refuelling capability.


Not one of them can refuel the RC-135 Airseeker/Rivet Joint, C-17 Globemaster, or the P-8A Poseidon. No refueling booms fitted.
And only two of the Voyagers have been fitted for (but without) the centreline fuselage refueling boom.... :roll:

arfah
Senior Member
Posts: 2364
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 19:02
Location: Niue
Contact:

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby arfah » 22 Jul 2018, 17:18

IMPORTANT: Daily Mail first aid
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
-<>-<>-<>-

Why this forum is pish!

1: Ineffective moderators
2: Too many fantasists ruining dedicated equipment threads with notions of what gun/mortar/artillery/missiles the equipment should have because it makes their panties moist.

Lord Jim
Senior Member
Posts: 3956
Joined: 10 Dec 2015, 02:15
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby Lord Jim » 22 Jul 2018, 18:45

As usual the so called Defence expert at he Daily Mail got his facts messed up, but the story is important. We are paying way over the odds for he Voyagers, and are limited in what we can and cannot do with them. What the RAAF got was a far better platform for less money. We couldn't even fit cargo doors on ours because it would interfere with passenger operations when in use as charter planes. However this is all water under the bridge, the MoD is stuck with contract.

Timmymagic
Senior Member
Posts: 1552
Joined: 07 May 2015, 23:57
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby Timmymagic » 23 Jul 2018, 09:12

Lord Jim wrote:However this is all water under the bridge, the MoD is stuck with contract.


And its important to note that the MoD had no choice. The Treasury is at fault here. MoD's only option to replace the VC.10 and Tristar fleets that were on the cusp of being unable to fly was via a PFI at Treasury insistence. Airtanker was the best offer the MoD got, it was either that or no AAR capability.

Lord Jim
Senior Member
Posts: 3956
Joined: 10 Dec 2015, 02:15
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby Lord Jim » 23 Jul 2018, 14:50

In place of Treasury insert Gordon Brown, the most inept Chancellor in recent history.

abc123
Senior Member
Posts: 2395
Joined: 10 May 2015, 18:15

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby abc123 » 24 Jul 2018, 07:35

Lord Jim wrote:As usual the so called Defence expert at he Daily Mail got his facts messed up, but the story is important. We are paying way over the odds for he Voyagers, and are limited in what we can and cannot do with them. What the RAAF got was a far better platform for less money. We couldn't even fit cargo doors on ours because it would interfere with passenger operations when in use as charter planes. However this is all water under the bridge, the MoD is stuck with contract.


Of course, absolute disaster.
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 6119
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby SKB » 18 Oct 2018, 13:18


...but only if you ignore the trans-Atlantic ferry flights earlier this year.

Dahedd
Member
Posts: 519
Joined: 06 May 2015, 11:18

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby Dahedd » 22 Mar 2019, 13:09

With the announcement today of the purchase of 5 E7 Wedgetail is it not about time to look again at booms on the Voyagers? That's now C17, P8 & E7s that require a boom to refuel.

Discuss!

downsizer
Member
Posts: 790
Joined: 02 May 2015, 08:03

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby downsizer » 22 Mar 2019, 13:16

Dahedd wrote:With the announcement today of the purchase of 5 E7 Wedgetail is it not about time to look again at booms on the Voyagers? That's now C17, P8 & E7s that require a boom to refuel.

Discuss!


There is no fucking money, discuss.

indeid
Member
Posts: 270
Joined: 21 May 2015, 20:46

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby indeid » 22 Mar 2019, 13:27

downsizer wrote:
Dahedd wrote:With the announcement today of the purchase of 5 E7 Wedgetail is it not about time to look again at booms on the Voyagers? That's now C17, P8 & E7s that require a boom to refuel.

Discuss!


There is no fucking money, discuss.


The way we normally change a contract when we have no cash is to extend the contract or chop requirements.

No doubt Airtanker have a list ready to go.

Timmymagic
Senior Member
Posts: 1552
Joined: 07 May 2015, 23:57
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby Timmymagic » 22 Mar 2019, 15:22

downsizer wrote:There is no fucking money, discuss.


And HMT are not in the mood to be altering any PFI deals either...particularly when the penny has just dropped how bad value they are...

SW1
Senior Member
Posts: 1183
Joined: 27 Aug 2018, 19:12
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby SW1 » 12 Feb 2020, 12:16

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... 330-tanker

The Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) is the launch customer for the Smart enhancements to the Airbus A330 Multi Role Tanker Transport (MRTT), Airbus announced here yesterday. This consists of automatic air-to-air refueling (A3R) and predictive maintenance. The RSAF has taken delivery of all six A330MRTTs that it ordered; one is on display in the static park at the Singapore Air Show.

User avatar
ArmChairCivvy
Senior Member
Posts: 11706
Joined: 05 May 2015, 21:34
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 12 Feb 2020, 15:54

SW1 wrote:The RSAF has taken delivery of all six A330MRTTs


I call that 'forward defence'... go out there, look for them, and shoot them dead before they are anywhere near "the two nickles and a dime" real estate that holds everything that makes up that Republic.


Return to “Royal Air Force”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests