Airbus A400M Atlas (RAF)

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So cut the power to the inboard engines and increase the power to the outboard engines...... If only it was that easy :p

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AFAIK it was laminar airflow at the wing root causing negative pressure along the fuselage sucking the sticks together. They fixed it by vortice inductors i think.

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i wonder will A400 eventually get air to air refueling tanker capability?

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marktigger wrote:i wonder will A400 eventually get air to air refueling tanker capability?
Yes, but not in british service unless something changes in the future.
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I've just had the very great pleasure of being buzzed by an Atlas flying low over Mid Staffordshire - first time I've seen one. Impressive sight and much quieter than the Herks we normally get around here.

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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/410m ... 00-uk-jobs

£400 million of support contracts awarded

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The airbus A400m flew the mach loop yesterday, loads of pics on facebook and twitter

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Add one more customer, Indonesia for 5 a/c for $2bn

http://www.janes.com/article/67064/indo ... d2-billion

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Defiance wrote:Add one more customer, Indonesia for 5 a/c for $2bn http://www.janes.com/article/67064/indo ... d2-billion
Good news hopefully more orders will follow.

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bobp wrote:Good news hopefully more orders will follow.
Fingers crossed they can iron out the kinks

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Does anyone know how much of each A400 is built in the UK?

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Defiance wrote: iron out the kinks
?
- parachuting?
- AAR (which most users dont use)?
- anything else?
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dmereifield wrote:Does anyone know how much of each A400 is built in the UK?
No idea beyond wing work (further reading http://www.compositesworld.com/articles ... composites) which on its own is fairly substantial. Presumably there's more going on in the UK supply chain.

Attached a picture from Airbus which covers it, similar ethos to Typhoon WRT production quantities.
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A good UK content, the biggest part being the wings which are designed and manufactured in Bristol, its why the first RAF atlas carries the city of Bristol name.

Engines are assembled in Germany, but with a significant number of UK components, and as usual a whole bunch of UK electronics goes in too.
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ArmChairCivvy wrote:
Defiance wrote: iron out the kinks
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- parachuting?
- AAR (which most users dont use)?
- anything else?
Production issues regarding quality, arguably AAR is a 'kink' as it's driven the A400M's largest (2nd by a few a/c actually) customer to look elsewhere for something the A400M is supposed to do.

Don't get me wrong, I like the aircraft and the problems are solvable (and it's being worked on) but lets not pretend it's perfect in its existing state. I think that's a fairly non-controversial statement to make.

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shark bait wrote:Engines are assembled in Germany, but with a significant number of UK components, and as usual a whole bunch of UK electronics goes in too.
Would have been a model project, without a "non" from a French President to using an existing engine... just because it was from America (Canada, in fact! Viva la Quebec (Libre or not, besides the point] was forgotten in the critical moment... and the rest is history).
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Thanks for the info, guys. Good news indeed

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arfah wrote:which nation is providing their unwanted airframes to Indonesia?
Presume it depends what sort of agreement is hammered out, nothing's been said about it yet. I was under the impression that the onus is on the nation to find the customers rather than Airbus but can't support that claim. I know Germany and Spain want to dump some but if this was the result of an Airbus sales campaign and not sponsored by either nation then it may be argued that it doesn't apply to either if what I thought was accurate.

I presume if some do get donated then it might be a bit of a political scrum to see how it gets divvied up (or not).

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Why haven't they used 2 ( or 4, never mind ) jet engines, like the Japanese for their Kawasaki C-2?
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abc123 wrote:Why haven't they used 2 ( or 4, never mind ) jet engines, like the Japanese for their Kawasaki C-2?
The way i've had it explained to me is A400M as a tactical aircraft typically operates at lower altitudes for shorter distances where turboprops are more efficient than turbofans (who prefer higher altitude long endurance crusing ala C-17 in a strategic role). More FOD resistant too in 'austere' locations where, as a tactical lifter, they are more likely to visit.

It'll be nuanced than that I expect but those are I believe 2 of the big ones.

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Defiance wrote:More FOD resistant too
?? What might that mean (sorry, not heard before)?
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FOD = Foreign Object Damage I believe

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bobp wrote:FOD = Foreign Object Damage I believe
Yes this ^^ Cheers :)

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