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Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

Postby Mercator » 20 Nov 2018, 00:42

ArmChairCivvy wrote: there will be other allies on the scene, too


Indeed. And I bet those allies would appreciate it if you could tank their assets too. And gosh, think of the flexibility that would give operational planners...

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Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

Postby abc123 » 01 Feb 2019, 16:20

Any news about possible Wedgetail purchase?
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Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

Postby R686 » 01 Feb 2019, 22:47

abc123 wrote:Any news about possible Wedgetail purchase?



I haven't heard anything of late, but I imagine government has priority elsewhere at the moment.

Other than RAF going thru the RAAF training for Wedgetail was the last I heard, which puts it within range being that Seedcorn place operators in the Poseidon train spectrum and that capability was taken up.

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Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 02 Feb 2019, 06:03

R686 wrote:Other than RAF going thru the RAAF training for Wedgetail was the last I heard


It remains unfunded, but the above would point to the Commands exercising their new powers to time prioritise between projects (which still will need to go thru the Maingate, which is not a "Command-level" decision).
- perhaps the RAF do not want to repeat with their AEW fleet the experience of the RN (= keeping T-23s going for longer than they should have... not VFM)

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Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

Postby Timmymagic » 08 Feb 2019, 23:56

Some good news...


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Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 09 Feb 2019, 03:56

That's a nice sweetener, to deflect the criticism of single sourcing from abroad (read: the US)

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Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

Postby SW1 » 09 Feb 2019, 09:49

Same PR fluff as before bugging up a non value added build to print.

Also the statement of using the same facility to meet any future sales is about as realistic as saying we’ll use Rosyth to build any future cvf sales.... it’s also guarantees the USAF won’t be buying.

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Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 09 Feb 2019, 12:36

SW1 wrote:a non value added build to print

A good point; land prgrms should also go thru that scrutiny (though just getting a repair facility in-country, on the deal, is some value added)

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Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

Postby shark bait » 11 Feb 2019, 08:03

ArmChairCivvy wrote:That's a nice sweetener, to deflect the criticism of single sourcing from abroad (read: the US)

It's still buying an aircraft from America, and buying a radar from America, they're proposing to bolt the two together in the UK because the E7 is an out of production aircraft.
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Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

Postby Mercator » 12 Feb 2019, 02:15

They were never really "in production" aircraft anyway. They were always a mod kit to 'green' aircraft. (Actually they were pretty much painted already, IIRC.) Only 2 of ours were done at the Boeing plant in the US – and not on a line there either. The rest were done here in Australia at the local Boeing hanger at RAAF Amberley – a depot repair shop (that used to be Air Force but was privatised/civilianized in the 90s). The 'green' airframes flew in under their own power. It's hard to call it a production line job if that's how they turn up, here or at the US plant.

Not sure of the Koreans or the Turks. But again, there was no line to start up to do the job. Someone just put together a mod kit and grabbed some green airframes.


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