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Re: Airbus A321 (RAF)

Postby Scimitar54 » 25 Mar 2021, 13:46

AFAIAC, to be correct, the “Jack” should be worn at the Nose, rather than at the Tail. :mrgreen:

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Re: Airbus A321 (RAF)

Postby SKB » 25 Mar 2021, 15:18

On aircraft and airliner livery, the canton (top left corner) of a flag should be at the nose, with the forward side of a flag on the the port (left) side of the plane.

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Re: Airbus A321 (RAF)

Postby RichardIC » 27 Mar 2021, 19:21

Another indication these are going to be contractor operated, not RAF.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... government

UK's Titan Airways to operate A321neo for the government

Titan Airways (ZT, London Stansted) is set to operate its first A321-200NX(LR) on behalf of the British government. The Airbus narrowbody has already been painted with a livery resembling Royal Air Force's VIP-configurable A330-200(MRTT).

G-XATW (msn 10150) was delivered to the British charter specialist in October 2020 but has never been deployed into revenue service so far. Following a brief period of storage at London Stansted, Titan ferried the aircraft to Bordeaux for cabin outfitting on November 15, 2020. It returned to the UK - first to Norwich for repainting and then to Stansted, where it remains - in March 2021. According to the ch-aviation fleets ownership module, the A321neo is owned by Air Lease Corporation. It was initially earmarked for operations under a long-term charter agreement with ultra-luxury tour operator TCS World Travel, which plans to operate the first round-the-world post-COVID itinerary in October 2021.

It is unclear if the aircraft will be exclusively operated for the government or also be available for Titan Airways' in-house charter flights when not needed for official duties. The carrier did not respond to ch-aviation's query in that regard.

The UK's current VIP aircraft, ZZ336 (msn 1363), plays the role of both a government transport and a multi-role tanker for the RAF.

Titan Airways is expecting the delivery of its second A321-200NX(LR) shortly.

The British government also has access to two passenger-configured BAe 146-100s. The quadjets are operated by the 32 (Royal) Squadron, which caters to the transport needs of the royal family and the elected officials. The aircraft are scheduled for retirement by the end of March 2022.

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Re: Airbus A321 (RAF)

Postby RichardIC » 06 Apr 2021, 12:28



Carrying Boris to Teesside last week. Civil registration, contractor operated. Not RAF.

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Re: Airbus A321 (RAF)

Postby Jensy » 06 Apr 2021, 13:19

RichardIC wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-rPlJ9iNoc

Carrying Boris to Teesside last week. Civil registration, contractor operated. Not RAF.


Apparently flown to Jakarta today, following a stop in Dubai.

Makes one wonder what future, if any, Vespina has outside of conflict zones or other high risk VVIP travel.

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Re: Airbus A321 (RAF)

Postby SW1 » 07 Apr 2021, 13:12

Taking the foreign secretary out it would appear

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fore ... ooperation

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Re: Airbus A321 (RAF)

Postby Tempest414 » 08 Apr 2021, 11:57

This is in no way new Titan use to move HMG people around before in the 737 BBJ and also had the Falklands service contact with the 767 the only thing now is the plane is painted up

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Re: Airbus A321 (RAF)

Postby RichardIC » 08 Apr 2021, 12:20

Tempest414 wrote:This is in no way new Titan use to move HMG people around before in the 737 BBJ and also had the Falklands service contact with the 767 the only thing now is the plane is painted up

HMG have used spot charters with lots of different airliners. They've also contracted out regular milk runs as you say.

But we don't know the terms of this contract, whether it's for exclusive UK governmental use, and for what period of time - so this isn't business as usual, move along now, nothing to see here.

The fact that branding has been applied is significant. It's not just a paintjob.

I suspect there will be a flurry of Parliamentary questions needing answers following the recess.

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Re: Airbus A321 (RAF)

Postby Tempest414 » 08 Apr 2021, 12:53

Give me a day or two and will see if any of the Titan pilots I know will speak

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Re: Airbus A321 (RAF)

Postby Tempest414 » 09 Apr 2021, 11:24

Had word back and it is lips shut at this time don't talk about it

I will try another way one of my Ex's step dad was the chief engineer at Titan and still sees Gene Willson


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