Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)

[mr.fred]

bin warrior.
move ajax to arm-inf brigades.
buy more boxer?

No IFV variant of AJAX to replace Warrior.

You’re right, there is no IFV variant of the Ajax, so it cannot replace Warrior.

[Jake1992]

What we currently have roughly -

760 - warriors
590 - Ajax
800 - bulldog
550 - Mastiff + ridgeback

I'd like to look at replacing all the Warriors plus half the bulldog fleet with a continuation of the Ajax, so say a total of of around 1700 Ajax in service of the varying types ( 350 Reece, 950 AFV and 400 of its other variants )

I'd then look to replace the mastiffs, ridgebacks and remaining Bulldogs with boxer 8x8, so around 1000 units in service with 350 odd fitted with the CT40.

Both wheeled and track AFV bring there own advantage so to me we should keep both not go down one or the other solly.

But by replacing the medium armour in the way Iv put forward we'll be reducing our logistical footprint from 5 family's down to 2.

1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer????

Wheres the 20 odd billion quid going to come from????

My idea is instead of upgrading warrior replace it with an Ajax variant and continue that on till the warrior is due to be replaced so mid 2030s

With regard to the boxed 1000, the bulldog will need replacing so funds will be made avalible plus the fact that 500-800 boxers will be brought so it's not out there really

My idea is to replace the family of 5 different vechiles with a family of 2

[mr.fred]

My idea is instead of upgrading warrior replace it with an Ajax variant and continue that on till the warrior is due to be replaced so mid 2030s

But there isn’t an IFV version of Ajax, and the existing variants wouldn’t fill the role.

[whitelancer]

what about ASCOD 2?

[mr.fred]

what about ASCOD 2?

Show me a picture of it.

[whitelancer]

ASCOD 2 was the base vehicle for Ajax so their is no reason Ajax could not be modified back to an IFV configuration. In fact if they remove the specialist ISTAR kit from AJAX I see no reason why it couldn't be an IFV.

[Jake1992]

My idea is instead of upgrading warrior replace it with an Ajax variant and continue that on till the warrior is due to be replaced so mid 2030s

But there isn’t an IFV version of Ajax, and the existing variants wouldn’t fill the role.

The existing Reece variant is an IVF/AVF fitted with ISTAR so why couldn't the family be a replacement for the warrior ??

[Ron5]

Interesting article on the genesis of a UK Boxer:

https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/boxer-armoured-vehicle/

[Luke jones]

What we currently have roughly -

760 - warriors
590 - Ajax
800 - bulldog
550 - Mastiff + ridgeback

I'd like to look at replacing all the Warriors plus half the bulldog fleet with a continuation of the Ajax, so say a total of of around 1700 Ajax in service of the varying types ( 350 Reece, 950 AFV and 400 of its other variants )

I'd then look to replace the mastiffs, ridgebacks and remaining Bulldogs with boxer 8x8, so around 1000 units in service with 350 odd fitted with the CT40.

Both wheeled and track AFV bring there own advantage so to me we should keep both not go down one or the other solly.

But by replacing the medium armour in the way Iv put forward we'll be reducing our logistical footprint from 5 family's down to 2.

1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer????

Wheres the 20 odd billion quid going to come from????

My idea is instead of upgrading warrior replace it with an Ajax variant and continue that on till the warrior is due to be replaced so mid 2030s

With regard to the boxed 1000, the bulldog will need replacing so funds will be made avalible plus the fact that 500-800 boxers will be brought so it's not out there really

My idea is to replace the family of 5 different vechiles with a family of 2

The issue with everything will always be one of there isnt enough money.
Now, to be clear i am of course in favour of increased defence spending.
Im really not sure it will happen though.
Therefore, we should always firstly look to what we have. Ajax and Boxer both coming in at 10mil each is a huge price even if they are great wagons. A Warrior conversion coming in at less than half that inc the new turret has got to be the first port of call whatever we do.
Thinking we would buy 1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer just isnt realistic im afraid. Warrior 2 would do everything an AFV version of Ajax would anyway and we already own the vehicle.

[Jake1992]

What we currently have roughly -

760 - warriors
590 - Ajax
800 - bulldog
550 - Mastiff + ridgeback

I'd like to look at replacing all the Warriors plus half the bulldog fleet with a continuation of the Ajax, so say a total of of around 1700 Ajax in service of the varying types ( 350 Reece, 950 AFV and 400 of its other variants )

I'd then look to replace the mastiffs, ridgebacks and remaining Bulldogs with boxer 8x8, so around 1000 units in service with 350 odd fitted with the CT40.

Both wheeled and track AFV bring there own advantage so to me we should keep both not go down one or the other solly.

But by replacing the medium armour in the way Iv put forward we'll be reducing our logistical footprint from 5 family's down to 2.

1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer????

Wheres the 20 odd billion quid going to come from????

My idea is instead of upgrading warrior replace it with an Ajax variant and continue that on till the warrior is due to be replaced so mid 2030s

With regard to the boxed 1000, the bulldog will need replacing so funds will be made avalible plus the fact that 500-800 boxers will be brought so it's not out there really

My idea is to replace the family of 5 different vechiles with a family of 2

The issue with everything will always be one of there isnt enough money.
Now, to be clear i am of course in favour of increased defence spending.
Im really not sure it will happen though.
Therefore, we should always firstly look to what we have. Ajax and Boxer both coming in at 10mil each is a huge price even if they are great wagons. A Warrior conversion coming in at less than half that inc the new turret has got to be the first port of call whatever we do.
Thinking we would buy 1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer just isnt realistic im afraid. Warrior 2 would do everything an AFV version of Ajax would anyway and we already own the vehicle.

Where'd you get the £10m a peice figure from ?
From what Iv read and been about to find the Ajax comes in at around £6m and the boxer at around £4m

[RunningStrong]

ASCOD 2 was the base vehicle for Ajax so their is no reason Ajax could not be modified back to an IFV configuration. In fact if they remove the specialist ISTAR kit from AJAX I see no reason why it couldn't be an IFV.

I don't think an AJAX could be an IFV, I think the turret ring position just makes that impossible.

But the ARES could if you threw a bunch of kit out the back (stores etc).

[mr.fred]

ASCOD 2 was the base vehicle for Ajax so their is no reason Ajax could not be modified back to an IFV configuration. In fact if they remove the specialist ISTAR kit from AJAX I see no reason why it couldn't be an IFV.

Right; so it would require a modification to an existing vehicle, so it’s a long way from an off the shelf purchase.

One reason Ajax can’t be easily converted into an IFV is the rear door. Check out the pictures here:
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/UK/mo ... e-tank-apc
There doesn’t seem to be much space behind the turret either.

[whitelancer]

Ajax or Ares same difference. We are going to end up with 3 families of vehicles, Ajax, Warrior and FV432 when one could do all three. Their is of course MIV as well a whole other family of AFVs. How much is it costing to develop and purchase all these new or updated vehicles while still maintaining old vehicles in service with them all doing much the same jobs on much the same vehicles. Frankly it all seems a bit of a mess to me.

Right; so it would require a modification to an existing vehicle, so it’s a long way from an off the shelf purchase.

Ajax was hardly an off the shelf purchase. ASCOD 2 was developed from ASCOD an IFV. The base vehicle could easily be converted into an IFV even if Ajax itself is unsuitable.

[Luke jones]

What we currently have roughly -

760 - warriors
590 - Ajax
800 - bulldog
550 - Mastiff + ridgeback

I'd like to look at replacing all the Warriors plus half the bulldog fleet with a continuation of the Ajax, so say a total of of around 1700 Ajax in service of the varying types ( 350 Reece, 950 AFV and 400 of its other variants )

I'd then look to replace the mastiffs, ridgebacks and remaining Bulldogs with boxer 8x8, so around 1000 units in service with 350 odd fitted with the CT40.

Both wheeled and track AFV bring there own advantage so to me we should keep both not go down one or the other solly.

But by replacing the medium armour in the way Iv put forward we'll be reducing our logistical footprint from 5 family's down to 2.

1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer????

Wheres the 20 odd billion quid going to come from????

My idea is instead of upgrading warrior replace it with an Ajax variant and continue that on till the warrior is due to be replaced so mid 2030s

With regard to the boxed 1000, the bulldog will need replacing so funds will be made avalible plus the fact that 500-800 boxers will be brought so it's not out there really

My idea is to replace the family of 5 different vechiles with a family of 2

The issue with everything will always be one of there isnt enough money.
Now, to be clear i am of course in favour of increased defence spending.
Im really not sure it will happen though.
Therefore, we should always firstly look to what we have. Ajax and Boxer both coming in at 10mil each is a huge price even if they are great wagons. A Warrior conversion coming in at less than half that inc the new turret has got to be the first port of call whatever we do.
Thinking we would buy 1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer just isnt realistic im afraid. Warrior 2 would do everything an AFV version of Ajax would anyway and we already own the vehicle.

Where'd you get the £10m a peice figure from ?
From what Iv read and been about to find the Ajax comes in at around £6m and the boxer at around £4m

Well Ajax is costing 6Billion or so for less than 600 vehicles isnt it?
The last figure bandied around for Boxer with the 40mm turret was 10mil a pop
If you dont buy the turret its pointless to buy it at all, or at the very least you need a good proportion with them. Really you also need many other versions to make strike ie mortar, atgw, direct fire.
We all know thats not going to happen.
Boxer with a 50 cal RWS on the roof will be a pile of shit on its own.
If they want to do strike right in the numbers you suggest the cost will be astronomical.

[Jake1992]

What we currently have roughly -

760 - warriors
590 - Ajax
800 - bulldog
550 - Mastiff + ridgeback

I'd like to look at replacing all the Warriors plus half the bulldog fleet with a continuation of the Ajax, so say a total of of around 1700 Ajax in service of the varying types ( 350 Reece, 950 AFV and 400 of its other variants )

I'd then look to replace the mastiffs, ridgebacks and remaining Bulldogs with boxer 8x8, so around 1000 units in service with 350 odd fitted with the CT40.

Both wheeled and track AFV bring there own advantage so to me we should keep both not go down one or the other solly.

But by replacing the medium armour in the way Iv put forward we'll be reducing our logistical footprint from 5 family's down to 2.

1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer????

Wheres the 20 odd billion quid going to come from????

My idea is instead of upgrading warrior replace it with an Ajax variant and continue that on till the warrior is due to be replaced so mid 2030s

With regard to the boxed 1000, the bulldog will need replacing so funds will be made avalible plus the fact that 500-800 boxers will be brought so it's not out there really

My idea is to replace the family of 5 different vechiles with a family of 2

The issue with everything will always be one of there isnt enough money.
Now, to be clear i am of course in favour of increased defence spending.
Im really not sure it will happen though.
Therefore, we should always firstly look to what we have. Ajax and Boxer both coming in at 10mil each is a huge price even if they are great wagons. A Warrior conversion coming in at less than half that inc the new turret has got to be the first port of call whatever we do.
Thinking we would buy 1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer just isnt realistic im afraid. Warrior 2 would do everything an AFV version of Ajax would anyway and we already own the vehicle.

Where'd you get the £10m a peice figure from ?
From what Iv read and been about to find the Ajax comes in at around £6m and the boxer at around £4m

Well Ajax is costing 6Billion or so for less than 600 vehicles isnt it?
The last figure bandied around for Boxer with the 40mm turret was 10mil a pop
If you dont buy the turret its pointless to buy it at all, or at the very least you need a good proportion with them. Really you also need many other versions to make strike ie mortar, atgw, direct fire.
We all know thats not going to happen.
Boxer with a 50 cal RWS on the roof will be a pile of shit on its own.
If they want to do strike right in the numbers you suggest the cost will be astronomical.

I have not seen those figures any where so I'll have to take your word for it.
I agree that to make strike work as it should there needs to be different varientd including a dicrect fire ( can't see it happening if it does it'll be base on Ajax not boxer ) and yes this cost but the economy of scale that Iv proposed will help some way with that.

The other area that money would be saved is through the greatly reduced logistics and training footprint that will come about by going from 5 families of vechiles down to 2.

This is what the army's long term goal is accross the force to reduce the different number of vechile families, they are also planing on doing this with the foxhound, husky, Panther, RWMIK and Pinzgaue to be replaced with one family ( looking likely to be an improved foxhound family )

[mr.fred]

Ajax or Ares same difference. We are going to end up with 3 families of vehicles, Ajax, Warrior and FV432 when one could do all three. Their is of course MIV as well a whole other family of AFVs. How much is it costing to develop and purchase all these new or updated vehicles while still maintaining old vehicles in service with them all doing much the same jobs on much the same vehicles. Frankly it all seems a bit of a mess to me.

Right; so it would require a modification to an existing vehicle, so it’s a long way from an off the shelf purchase.

Ajax was hardly an off the shelf purchase. ASCOD 2 was developed from ASCOD an IFV. The base vehicle could easily be converted into an IFV even if Ajax itself is unsuitable.

But getting enough of one would cost. A new variant would have to be put through design, trials etc, just like all the existing ones, and you’d have to both pay for the new ones and wait for the production line to produce the result.

Ajax wasn’t off the shelf, obviously. An IFV variant would also be Not off the shelf. It’s an advantage with neither.

[Luke jones]

What we currently have roughly

760 - warriors
590 - Ajax
800 - bulldog
550 - Mastiff + ridgeback

I'd like to look at replacing all the Warriors plus half the bulldog fleet with a continuation of the Ajax, so say a total of of around 1700 Ajax in service of the varying types ( 350 Reece, 950 AFV and 400 of its other variants )

I'd then look to replace the mastiffs, ridgebacks and remaining Bulldogs with boxer 8x8, so around 1000 units in service with 350 odd fitted with the CT40.

Both wheeled and track AFV bring there own advantage so to me we should keep both not go down one or the other solly.

But by replacing the medium armour in the way Iv put forward we'll be reducing our logistical footprint from 5 family's down to 2.

1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer????

Wheres the 20 odd billion quid going to come from????

My idea is instead of upgrading warrior replace it with an Ajax variant and continue that on till the warrior is due to be replaced so mid 2030s

With regard to the boxed 1000, the bulldog will need replacing so funds will be made avalible plus the fact that 500-800 boxers will be brought so it's not out there really

My idea is to replace the family of 5 different vechiles with a family of 2

The issue with everything will always be one of there isnt enough money.
Now, to be clear i am of course in favour of increased defence spending.
Im really not sure it will happen though.
Therefore, we should always firstly look to what we have. Ajax and Boxer both coming in at 10mil each is a huge price even if they are great wagons. A Warrior conversion coming in at less than half that inc the new turret has got to be the first port of call whatever we do.
Thinking we would buy 1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer just isnt realistic im afraid. Warrior 2 would do everything an AFV version of Ajax would anyway and we already own the vehicle.

Where'd you get the £10m a peice figure from ?
From what Iv read and been about to find the Ajax comes in at around £6m and the boxer at around £4m

Well Ajax is costing 6Billion or so for less than 600 vehicles isnt it?
The last figure bandied around for Boxer with the 40mm turret was 10mil a pop
If you dont buy the turret its pointless to buy it at all, or at the very least you need a good proportion with them. Really you also need many other versions to make strike ie mortar, atgw, direct fire.
We all know thats not going to happen.
Boxer with a 50 cal RWS on the roof will be a pile of shit on its own.
If they want to do strike right in the numbers you suggest the cost will be astronomical.

I have not seen those figures any where so I'll have to take your word for it.
I agree that to make strike work as it should there needs to be different varientd including a dicrect fire ( can't see it happening if it does it'll be base on Ajax not boxer ) and yes this cost but the economy of scale that Iv proposed will help some way with that.

The other area that money would be saved is through the greatly reduced logistics and training footprint that will come about by going from 5 families of vechiles down to 2.

This is what the army's long term goal is accross the force to reduce the different number of vechile families, they are also planing on doing this with the foxhound, husky, Panther, RWMIK and Pinzgaue to be replaced with one family ( looking likely to be an improved foxhound family )

I agree deleting vehicle types would be a good idea, The 430 series needs to go and all the UOR stuff will have to go once its worn out.
That said i dont see what gain there would be for deleting Warrior and going to an Ajax variant( if at all possible) for double the cost per unit.
Warrior 2 seems like itl be a great vehicle.
As said if you want Boxer you need the turret with 40mm otherwise itl be a pile of shite.
They simply will not order enough variants in enough numbers, i'd love to be proved wrong though.

[Jake1992]

What we currently have roughly

760 - warriors
590 - Ajax
800 - bulldog
550 - Mastiff + ridgeback

I'd like to look at replacing all the Warriors plus half the bulldog fleet with a continuation of the Ajax, so say a total of of around 1700 Ajax in service of the varying types ( 350 Reece, 950 AFV and 400 of its other variants )

I'd then look to replace the mastiffs, ridgebacks and remaining Bulldogs with boxer 8x8, so around 1000 units in service with 350 odd fitted with the CT40.

Both wheeled and track AFV bring there own advantage so to me we should keep both not go down one or the other solly.

But by replacing the medium armour in the way Iv put forward we'll be reducing our logistical footprint from 5 family's down to 2.

1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer????

Wheres the 20 odd billion quid going to come from????

My idea is instead of upgrading warrior replace it with an Ajax variant and continue that on till the warrior is due to be replaced so mid 2030s

With regard to the boxed 1000, the bulldog will need replacing so funds will be made avalible plus the fact that 500-800 boxers will be brought so it's not out there really

My idea is to replace the family of 5 different vechiles with a family of 2

The issue with everything will always be one of there isnt enough money.
Now, to be clear i am of course in favour of increased defence spending.
Im really not sure it will happen though.
Therefore, we should always firstly look to what we have. Ajax and Boxer both coming in at 10mil each is a huge price even if they are great wagons. A Warrior conversion coming in at less than half that inc the new turret has got to be the first port of call whatever we do.
Thinking we would buy 1700 Ajax and 1000 Boxer just isnt realistic im afraid. Warrior 2 would do everything an AFV version of Ajax would anyway and we already own the vehicle.

Where'd you get the £10m a peice figure from ?
From what Iv read and been about to find the Ajax comes in at around £6m and the boxer at around £4m

Well Ajax is costing 6Billion or so for less than 600 vehicles isnt it?
The last figure bandied around for Boxer with the 40mm turret was 10mil a pop
If you dont buy the turret its pointless to buy it at all, or at the very least you need a good proportion with them. Really you also need many other versions to make strike ie mortar, atgw, direct fire.
We all know thats not going to happen.
Boxer with a 50 cal RWS on the roof will be a pile of shit on its own.
If they want to do strike right in the numbers you suggest the cost will be astronomical.

I have not seen those figures any where so I'll have to take your word for it.
I agree that to make strike work as it should there needs to be different varientd including a dicrect fire ( can't see it happening if it does it'll be base on Ajax not boxer ) and yes this cost but the economy of scale that Iv proposed will help some way with that.

The other area that money would be saved is through the greatly reduced logistics and training footprint that will come about by going from 5 families of vechiles down to 2.

This is what the army's long term goal is accross the force to reduce the different number of vechile families, they are also planing on doing this with the foxhound, husky, Panther, RWMIK and Pinzgaue to be replaced with one family ( looking likely to be an improved foxhound family )

I agree deleting vehicle types would be a good idea, The 430 series needs to go and all the UOR stuff will have to go once its worn out.
That said i dont see what gain there would be for deleting Warrior and going to an Ajax variant( if at all possible) for double the cost per unit.
Warrior 2 seems like itl be a great vehicle.
As said if you want Boxer you need the turret with 40mm otherwise itl be a pile of shite.
They simply will not order enough variants in enough numbers, i'd love to be proved wrong though.

My thinking behind replacing warrior with IFV variant of Ajax would be to reduce the over logistic footprint plus Ajax has more more for growth over its life than warrior better protection and a better power set up it is over all more future proof. The Ajax design is based on a IFV so it wouldn't take a great deal for an IFV variant to be made just like other variants were made.

With boxer my understanding is that the plan has been to order 500-800 units to replace the mastiffs and ridgebacks ( 500 unit would need to be the minimum for them alone ) these won't need the 40mm turret for the roll they'll play.
But yes I do agree that for the strike concept a good number ( 200-250 say ? ) would ideally need it to give the extra bang strike will need

[jedibeeftrix]

bin warrior.
move ajax to arm-inf brigades.
buy more boxer?

No IFV variant of AJAX to replace Warrior.

true..... and yet:

we have the strike concept, which hangs on the rapid coalescence of dispersed capability to achieve local dominance.
no-one has ever convinced me that ajax has a useful role to play in achieving this.
intra-theatre mobility of ~800km, in a useful timeframe....? sounds much more like a wheeled platform.

"but we've bought them and announced they'll go into the strike brigades!"
so what, we announced sdsr10 on the premise of a 98,000 strong army built around five multi-role brigades.
look how fast that got binned!

"but there is no such thing as ajax IFV!"
sure, but ajax in strike looks daft, and arm-inf brigades with no organic recce battalion looks a little odd.
numbers don't match, well maybe the numbers/types will change.

[Luke jones]

If the army were to go ahead and buy a couple hundred of the base APC version with a 50cal for the Strike Brigades
1) once its done this fast, long range road move across Europe, what does it do when it gets there other than getting twatted by Russian armour???
2) For a multi mil unit price, does it do anything that Mastiff doesnt already do to a greater or lesser degree????
Can anyone make sense of it without useing army bullshit bingo speak?
Genuinely interested.

[Jake1992]

If the army were to go ahead and buy a couple hundred of the base APC version with a 50cal for the Strike Brigades
2) For a multi mil unit price, does it do anything that Mastiff doesnt already do to a greater or lesser degree????
Can anyone make sense of it without useing army bullshit bingo speak?
Genuinely interested.

My guess is for the flexiblity that the modular design can offer from a single base platform, they'll give the army the ability to put out a large APC, IFV armoured ambulance ect while maintaining a small logistics and training footprint something the mastiff and ridgeback can't really do on there own. But to fully realise this money will need to be properly invested.

To me the strike brigade needs to go 1 of 2 ways -

1 - be a fast moving low firepower unit that can get troops around urban areas quickly can safely to deal with less advanced adversaries and no more. ( similar to wgat France is doing in Africa )

2 - a full specturm unit that has all the capablities of a devision ( artillery, heavy armour, Reece, signals, fast moving wheeled IFVs ect ) but shrunk down to a brigade size formation, allow it to react to all circumstances quickly without need to have everything filter down from higher up.

Personally the second option is the rout that needs taking but as always money needs investing to allow it to happen and not end up as some half way mashed together house

[jedibeeftrix]

This is what we have 2016/2017.

When we talk about 589 ajax, it is interesting to note that 198 of them are the scout SV variant.
vs. the 201 CVRt.
Can we really not push ajax into the 'heavy' brigades?
#bringbackbrigaderecce

As an unrelated aside, according to ThinkDefence ajax uses the same engine as boxer (inc gearbox - for the full drivetrain too?).

[Lord Jim]

The Heavy Brigades are where the Ajax should be is any common sense is used. The Strike Brigades should be all MIV with the necessary variants bought as part of the programme. As for replacing the Warrior, it is more than possible. What was Ajax built upon, the ASCOD 2. It is still the same chassis etc. with modified automotive components. It would cost but if the funding was moved form Ajax, of which we are buying too many and the Warrior upgrade we would at least be able to make a start on such a programme. The turret is already developed as are the electronics, so it would be a very low risk programme for a change. Also the MIV would provide support platforms such as Mortar carrier as other nations are doing, using 8x8s to replace M113 based platforms.

[Lord Jim]

The above is why the Army needs to be at the front of the line for any new money allocated to defence. Bothe the Ajax and planned MIV are lacking basic capabilities the Army needs. They are like the Typhoon being delivered with out radar and only sidewinders or the T-26 being delivered with only a 4.5" and Sea Ceptor but nothing else including sonar.

[mr.fred]

The Heavy Brigades are where the Ajax should be is any common sense is used. The Strike Brigades should be all MIV with the necessary variants bought as part of the programme. As for replacing the Warrior, it is more than possible. What was Ajax built upon, the ASCOD 2. It is still the same chassis etc. with modified automotive components. It would cost but if the funding was moved form Ajax, of which we are buying too many and the Warrior upgrade we would at least be able to make a start on such a programme. The turret is already developed as are the electronics, so it would be a very low risk programme for a change. Also the MIV would provide support platforms such as Mortar carrier as other nations are doing, using 8x8s to replace M113 based platforms.

It would be very in keeping with the history of AFV procurement over the past few decades to change horse in mid stream. We might be able to start on an ASCOD based IFV, but would we have the money to finish? How long would we have to wait if we did rustle up the money?

Anything is possible, with enough money. You could develop a whole new IFV, MBT to go with it and some new weapons for both, but it would take longer and cost more, so why would you.