ArmChairCivvy wrote:That is surprising as one of the early defects of the Archer platform was legs too feeble to make full use of the MRSI capability designed inMikeKiloPapa wrote: No spade or supporting legs= knackered chassis and suspension. Will likely also mean less range and accuracy.
More legs? not just the customary ones in the rear?MikeKiloPapa wrote:the forces being imparted on the chassis pivot point
Well, they wanted it to work when there is a meter of snow... no wonder that Norway and Finland went for a tracked platform that balances the two things betterMikeKiloPapa wrote: the choice of this vehicle for the gun was and still is daft!
Mine, too, and there are plenty more reasons for that.Lord Jim wrote: if cost, both up front and through life are a major consideration, a wheeled platform get my money if I actually placed bets.
Lord Jim wrote: Nammo are developing a ramjet powered 155mm shell with a range approaching 100km providing another route to follow.
Im afraid i dont quite understand your question(s) ? are you implying that more support legs might improve Archers accuracy ?.....or are you asking what i meant by pivot point ?ArmChairCivvy wrote:More legs? not just the customary ones in the rear?MikeKiloPapa wrote:the forces being imparted on the chassis pivot point
MikeKiloPapa wrote:more support legs might improve Archers accuracy ?..
Lord Jim wrote:Well the Archer in its latest incarnation has four legs to give the platform greater stability.
We will have to see when, or if, the British Army chooses a new SP 155m platform, but if cost, both up front and through life are a major consideration, a wheeled platform get my money if I actually placed bets.
ArmChairCivvy wrote:MikeKiloPapa wrote:more support legs might improve Archers accuracy ?..
I think upthread there was an answer to this. Accuracy as in when you let off 6/7 rounds as quickly as you can , to achieve MRSI.
- if the "thing" does not stabilise quick enough, then you could be just as well be shooting at the moon
MikeKiloPapa wrote:slow and cumbersome reloading process,
They took also half of the batch destined for Norway... the other half could (?) be purchased cheaply for use as training pieces - if we select the MAN versionLord Jim wrote: the original Archer as used by the Swedes.
ArmChairCivvy wrote:They took also half of the batch destined for Norway... the other half could (?) be purchased cheaply for use as training pieces - if we select the MAN version
Stal wrote: buy 36 additionnal guns of another type apparently
Lord Jim wrote:According to BAe it takes less than 5 min to reload all 21 rounds into the new version of the Archer, using a specialised Limber vehicle based on the same 8x8 MAN
Lord Jim wrote: I think it is safe to say you are not a fan of the Archer, either in its original form or the latest as shown at DSEi.
Stal wrote:we will have to wait for the DK field experience to know more I guess.
Lord Jim wrote:But the Gun is only gong to part of an almost total overhaul of the army's long range fire support capability, which now has to play catch up in a big way to other nations. The gun itself need modern ammunition, both dumb and smart. The GMLRS need new rockets to increase its range and effect and there will be a need for a low vis UAV that can be used as part of the targets systems.
Lord Jim wrote: The system has a range of up to 150Km, and where as this test used the basic GPS guidance package and warhead, the plan is to be able to adapt all versions of the SDB I and II to this configuration.
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