donald_of_tokyo wrote:For me, if T21 was an escort, T31 is an escort. (complete lack of ASW in T31 vs very limited ASW in T21 is offset enough by a brand new but limited AAW capability (12-24 CAMM on T31) vs completely obsolete ones (small number of out of date (even in 1980 standard) SeaCat SAM on T21)).
But anyway not a Tier-1.
The difference was that Type 21 had plenty of other escorts in the fleet already at that time which were capable, it didn't need to BE a major escort. Whereas right now that's what the navy needs more of.
dmereifield wrote:We don't know the final T31 spec, yet
Unless there is a very significant change (Adding 76mm or bigger gun, sonar(s), AShM, at least 1 CIWS AND more than 12 SAMs at the very least) then I doubt it's going to be much more to meet that standard for the Royal Navy.
Either make a proper escort, or just admit it's only big OPV and arm it accordingly, and stop wasting money on "for show only" extra weapons for a scenario it would never dare enter just so BoJo can say "13 frigates" in PMQs. Spend that saved money from not needing to give it CAMM, Artisan, or such a big hull, on the T26/T45's fittings having capability gaps.
I'd say either be:
5,000t+ (Iver hull most likely) with:
- 8x AShM
- 32x CAMM
- 8-16 Mk41 (Depending on whether AShM goes in VLS or not, 16 if so, 8 if not)
- Hull Sonar
- 76mm gun
- 2x DS30M
- 1x Phalanx
- Merlin Hangar
- Mission Bay/Boat
2-3,000t (Probably stretched River) with:
- 40 or 57mm
- 2x DS30M
- Wildcat Hangar
- Stored Boat