donald_of_tokyo wrote:This follows the T31e RFI.
Hi Donald-san. The RFI actually specifies Lloyds Naval Ship Rules. ANEP 77 is a goal-based NATO-specified set of Naval Ship rules (used by the Australian, Canadian, Danish, French, Italian, Netherlands, Norwegian, Singapore, South African, Swedish and Royal Navy).
donald_of_tokyo wrote:RN version of Arrowhead 140 never had Mk.41, nor phalanx in any image.
Firstly, a point that needs to be made repeatedly. There is no "RN version" of the T31. YET. Only what people assume is possible within the budget. Basically guesswork, without any knowledge of the real costs. I think many forget that the whole ship is intended to use as much off-the-shelf equipment as possible, whereas the T26 and T45 were almost entirely at the "bleeding edge" of technology.
Secondly, the RFI states "Point Defence Missile System (PDMS) + Sensors or Close in Weapon System + FTR PDMS to survive attacks as expected in constabulary operations"
I read that as PDMS, or CIWS plus the ability to add a PDMS later
Since the RN doesn't have a PDMS system in use, I would be very surprised if there was no provision for Phalanx in an RN version.
donald_of_tokyo wrote:There was no Mk.41 requirement in T31e RFI.
There is no specific hardware mentioned at any point in the RFI, but there is a requirement to allow for specific capabilities both at launch and in the future. Mk. 41 meets the future ability to deploy anti-ship missiles and has been shown on both Leander and A140 renderings and videos.
We don't know yet which capabilities the RN are going to want or be able to afford, yet, only what the Government thinks are the range of options that would make it attractive "to the market". That is clearly indicated by the actual title of the RFI, which is "Request For Information (RFI) to support Type 31e (T31e) Market Testing
Repulse wrote:but maybe they are playing politics believing the government will stump up the cash in the end to buy five fully kitted Frigates
Or maybe they aren't stupid and are fully aware that that isn't going to happen, so they've raided the 1SL's "tea and biscuits" budget for the extra cash. It's also often overlooked that, in recent years, Govt. Departments have been given greater freedom in how they manage cashflow (to avoid the highly wasteful end-of-year "spend it or lose it" mindset that the previous rules engendered). This allows greater flexibility when it comes to re-deploying under-spends both within and across financial years.
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