seaspear wrote:I was thinking along the lines of something of a similar size to a Canberra class with modifications allowing easy conversion when required to a large hospital facility/ship when needed , and had all of that classes capabilities after modifications changed again
seaspear wrote:Article 22 16.1 requires ten days notice to the combatants of the use of a vessel as a hospital ship, 170.2 allows the ship and it does mention with the usage of misiles being deflected into the path of a hospital the allowance of purely deflective means of self defence ,Im not able to find a section that sets out what a hospital ship cant be and whether an obvious surplus military ship cant be converted for the duration of these hostilities , we need a lawyer on this
ARTICLE 33. - vessels which have been transformed into hospital ships cannot be put to any other use throughout the duration of hostilities.
arfah wrote:Fact3: A hospital ship cannot send those deemed Hors de Combat back to combat without risking its protected status.
The following conditions shall not be considered as depriving hospital ships or sick-bays of vessels of the protection due to them:
1. The fact that the crews of ships or sick-bays are armed for the maintenance of order, for their own defence or that of the sick and wounded.
2. The presence on board of apparatus exclusively intended to facilitate navigation or communication.
3. The discovery on board hospital ships or in sick-bays of portable arms and ammunition taken from the wounded, sick and shipwrecked and not yet handed to the proper service.
4. The fact that the humanitarian activities of hospital ships and sickbays of vessels or of the crews extend to the care of wounded, sick or shipwrecked civilians.
5. The transport of equipment and of personnel intended exclusively for medical duties, over and above the normal requirements.
seaspear wrote:So it might be that a ship like a lhd may be disarmed painted white with red croses registered as a hospital ship, advanced notice of ten days given to all combatants and be acceptable in that role providing it conforms with the legal requirements of its conduct as a hospital ship
Continuing to provide world-class Defence Medical Services at home and on operations.
shark bait wrote:Going to become difficult with Argus being withdrawn in 2024, and no replacement plan as yet.
Poiuytrewq wrote:That's more like it
I'm not sure who it was that claimed it was an Amphibious Assault platform? I see them as being multipurpose support vessels that would excel in the transportation of troops/vehicles and helicopters AFTER the initial assault phase.shark bait wrote:Perhaps they should look at your point class concept.
Whilst it's not an amphibious assault platform, it could work well as a sea base for lower intensity tasks like delivering aid.
Poiuytrewq wrote:Getting the optimum Hi/Lo mix is difficult, I think modified points could have a lot to offer.
Good question. I'm not aware of any globally.ArmChairCivvy wrote:Would having a roll-on Primary Casualty Receiving facility be a "first" or has it been done anywhere before?
Poiuytrewq wrote:I am hoping Ms Mordaunt is proposing two general purpose HADR platforms rather than 2 dedicated hospital ships.
With an unlimited budget within reason