Nope, the sonars tend to be optimised around specific frequency bands that are different for different jobs. Doesn't mater because the sonar looks like this now;Lord Jim wrote:Does a multi role sonar, towed, hull mounted and so on exist that can be used for various missions from ASW to Mine warfare
Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
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Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
The Type 32 frigate has been split from this topic as it seems to be more than just a Type 31 derivative. This topic is now solely focused on the Type 31.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mass ... -in-rosyth
A vast building hall for the Royal Navy’s Type 31 frigates has been welcomed by Defence Secretary Ben Wallace as a major milestone in building the next-generation frigates.
Type 31s, which are being built by Babcock in Roysth, will be the beating heart of the Royal Navy’s surface fleet, deterring aggression and supporting the UK’s national interests across the world.
At 147 metres long, the new hall can comfortably fit three Olympic size swimming pools, and the 30 metre high ‘megadoors’ can accommodate two vessels being assembled at the same time side by side.
The unveiling of the module hall follows the substantial £16.5 billion settlement for defence over the next four years that will modernise the armed forces, reinvigorate the shipbuilding industry and bring jobs and prosperity to every part of the UK.
Speaking virtually at the opening ceremony of Babcock’s mammoth module hall in Rosyth, the Defence Secretary said:
Defence underpins a wealth of jobs and investment across the entire United Kingdom. Babcock’s ‘frigate factory’ in Rosyth demonstrates the huge footprint of prosperity that defence brings.
This vast industrial facility will see Scottish shipbuilders build our latest warships to take pride of place in the Royal Navy fleet.
Robertson was awarded a £31.5 million contract by Babcock to build the module hall. This project maintained 100 jobs, created five new full-time roles at Robertson and supported a further 100 positions throughout Robertson’s supply chain. The company has also committed significant orders to local Scottish suppliers for the assembly hall build.
Ground-breaking for the new hall commenced in April 2020. The steel structures are now in place in preparation for ship assembly, which will commence in 2021.
Learning lessons from previous programmes to reinvigorate the shipbuilding capabilities at Rosyth, the new hall has state-of-the art manufacturing facilities and new digital systems as well as gantry stair access inside the structure to remove the need for scaffolding. This means personnel will be able to safely access the vessels without leaving the building.
The Type 31 programme employs more than 1,250 people across the UK, which will create a legacy of infrastructure, innovation and skills for the shipbuilding sector. Off the back of the programme, Babcock have also jumpstarted a further 150 apprentice roles to set the sector up for success in the next generation.
A vast building hall for the Royal Navy’s Type 31 frigates has been welcomed by Defence Secretary Ben Wallace as a major milestone in building the next-generation frigates.
Type 31s, which are being built by Babcock in Roysth, will be the beating heart of the Royal Navy’s surface fleet, deterring aggression and supporting the UK’s national interests across the world.
At 147 metres long, the new hall can comfortably fit three Olympic size swimming pools, and the 30 metre high ‘megadoors’ can accommodate two vessels being assembled at the same time side by side.
The unveiling of the module hall follows the substantial £16.5 billion settlement for defence over the next four years that will modernise the armed forces, reinvigorate the shipbuilding industry and bring jobs and prosperity to every part of the UK.
Speaking virtually at the opening ceremony of Babcock’s mammoth module hall in Rosyth, the Defence Secretary said:
Defence underpins a wealth of jobs and investment across the entire United Kingdom. Babcock’s ‘frigate factory’ in Rosyth demonstrates the huge footprint of prosperity that defence brings.
This vast industrial facility will see Scottish shipbuilders build our latest warships to take pride of place in the Royal Navy fleet.
Robertson was awarded a £31.5 million contract by Babcock to build the module hall. This project maintained 100 jobs, created five new full-time roles at Robertson and supported a further 100 positions throughout Robertson’s supply chain. The company has also committed significant orders to local Scottish suppliers for the assembly hall build.
Ground-breaking for the new hall commenced in April 2020. The steel structures are now in place in preparation for ship assembly, which will commence in 2021.
Learning lessons from previous programmes to reinvigorate the shipbuilding capabilities at Rosyth, the new hall has state-of-the art manufacturing facilities and new digital systems as well as gantry stair access inside the structure to remove the need for scaffolding. This means personnel will be able to safely access the vessels without leaving the building.
The Type 31 programme employs more than 1,250 people across the UK, which will create a legacy of infrastructure, innovation and skills for the shipbuilding sector. Off the back of the programme, Babcock have also jumpstarted a further 150 apprentice roles to set the sector up for success in the next generation.
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Opening ceremony for a vast shed??? Gimme a break. All that's been done is the metal girders in the picture behind the yellow clad gents. Look closely, you can just make them out. The big blue building to the left which clearly we are expected to believe is the new facility, isn't anything of the sort.
By the way, the Devonshire Hall for building the nukes at Barrow is about twice the size. According to STRN, over 300 million is being spent there to improve facilities.
By the way, the Devonshire Hall for building the nukes at Barrow is about twice the size. According to STRN, over 300 million is being spent there to improve facilities.
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is this the 'frigate factory'?
or just a big shed...
or just a big shed...
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Well it's a few steel girders at the moment, but they've ordered tooling etc. etc.
Pretty sure most factories are big sheds until you fill them.
Pretty sure most factories are big sheds until you fill them.
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or, some are more like warehouses. If you consider the extension to the hall to allow three (Dreadnoughts soon, though the Astutes are not out of the way completely) boats to be worked on ... at a snail's paceRoders96 wrote:most factories are big sheds until you fill them.
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The blue building is the module fabrication building, the same one that built carrier blocks.
The new building will be the assembly assembly hall where they can build two ships out of the terrible Scottish weather.
The new building will be the assembly assembly hall where they can build two ships out of the terrible Scottish weather.
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Babcock Rosyth. They've already started building the new ship hall.
CGI of the new ship hall, being built by Robertson Construction. Both ends of the £31.5m structure will have a pair of large doors.
https://www.robertson.co.uk/news/robert ... ock-rosyth
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Yes and there are a lot of Bobs working on it.SKB wrote:They've already started building the new ship hall.
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BabBobs?!bobp wrote:Yes and there are a lot of Bobs working on it.
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Portsmouth's ship hall is 53 metres longer than this new Rosyth one, its 200 metres long compared to 147 metres at Rosyth. However, both halls are 60 metres wide. Rosyth's new hall will have double-doors at both ends, but Portsmouth's hall has double-doors at the basin end and only a single door at its opposite land-side end.
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Portsmouth is off topicSKB wrote:but Portsmouth's hall
And how many Bobs?
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Tooling?? You really have no idea.Roders96 wrote:Well it's a few steel girders at the moment, but they've ordered tooling etc. etc.
Pretty sure most factories are big sheds until you fill them.
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Didn't they just build a couple sponsons, nothing difficult.shark bait wrote:The blue building is the module fabrication building, the same one that built carrier blocks.
The new building will be the assembly assembly hall where they can build two ships out of the terrible Scottish weather.
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Yes they did but they also glued the big bits together, and made them all work, apart from some pipework that leaked.Ron5 wrote:Didn't they just build a couple sponsons, nothing difficult.
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They being the ACA. Plenty of BAE workers there.bobp wrote:Yes they did but they also glued the big bits together, and made them all work, apart from some pipework that leaked.Ron5 wrote:Didn't they just build a couple sponsons, nothing difficult.
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Navy Lookout kindly showed in which building the line was located:
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Babcock have also got planning permission to extend said building
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Ron5 wrote:Navy Lookout kindly showed in which building the line was located:
With the Sandowns likely not long for the chop (suitability for off-board systems rather than age), the refit facility/syncrolift building semes like an interesting location for future development too.tomuk wrote:Babcock have also got planning permission to extend said building
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