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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Ron5 » 20 Dec 2018, 15:56

I see QE is fully equipped with an anti drone weapon.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Scimitar54 » 20 Dec 2018, 20:02

A phalanx of Royal Marines perhaps :geek

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Lord Jim » 21 Dec 2018, 01:20

Or the Captain with a brace of 12g Shotguns.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Scimitar54 » 21 Dec 2018, 03:35

Still need the Marines as "Beaters" to flush out the Prey. :mrgreen:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 21 Dec 2018, 11:26

Scimitar54 wrote:Still need the Marines as "Beaters" to flush out the Prey. :mrgreen:
Should have organised the 120,000 odd severely pissed off travellers to form a search around the perimeter and meet out whatever justice they deemed necessary to anyone they caught 8-)

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 21 Dec 2018, 11:30

Ron5 wrote:I see QE is fully equipped with an anti drone weapon.
Are you referring to the rather splendid weapon displayed in the Flag Dining Room Ron? :lol:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby swoop » 22 Dec 2018, 07:08

SKB wrote:Photos of QE's Flag Dining Room.
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Someone needs a bollocking over the scratch in that tabletop!

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby S M H » 22 Dec 2018, 11:20

swoop wrote:Someone needs a bollocking over the scratch in that tabletop!
The table has history tha scratches testify to it. it would be nice if the table has been on a ship before.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby dmereifield » 22 Dec 2018, 12:07

S M H wrote:
swoop wrote:Someone needs a bollocking over the scratch in that tabletop!
The table has history tha scratches testify to it. it would be nice if the table has been on a ship before.


Exactly, I was also wondering about its history.....

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Scimitar54 » 22 Dec 2018, 14:33

Possibly the scurvy knave who scratched it was flogged on it either before (or aft of) the Main Mast. :mrgreen:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby S M H » 22 Dec 2018, 15:05

There was a painted white table in Rosyth dockyard it had rounded ends that was of hms Queen Elizabeth along with it chairs. So I don't think is Jacky fishers table from 1918. If it's of the first Queen Elizabeth then the scratches are to be left.. As like the ships silver it belongs on board.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Poiuytrewq » 22 Dec 2018, 20:18

Five USN carriers are now fitted with CAT (Countermeasure Anti-Torpedo). As the name suggests the defensive system intercepts & destroys incoming torpedoes.
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CAT-Launch-from-CVN77.jpg

Is this something that RN should be looking at for QE and PoW?
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Scimitar54 » 22 Dec 2018, 22:01

If it is adopted, I think the term Tailored Air Group will have to be "binned". Can't have an Acronym meaning two different things on the same ship. :roll:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby swoop » 22 Dec 2018, 23:05

Scimitar54 wrote:Possibly the scurvy knave who scratched it was flogged on it either before (or aft of) the Main Mast. :mrgreen:

I certainly hope so!
Looking at the opposite end of the table there is very little damage to that end.

Having built & refurbished Wardroom and Captain's tables in the past, the idiotic actions of the crew are to be held in question... :wtf:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby abc123 » 23 Dec 2018, 07:47

Poiuytrewq wrote:Is this something that RN should be looking at for QE and PoW?


Definitly. And not only for carriers.
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby abc123 » 23 Dec 2018, 07:51

OK, I know that Fleur de lis is used in British heraldics as well, but isn't that a symbol much more connected with France? ( about carpet )
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Scimitar54 » 23 Dec 2018, 08:34

Will the carpet for POW have crowns? Could there be a possibility that orders or deliveries have been reversed? :mrgreen:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Digger22 » 23 Dec 2018, 14:13

Maybe a Torpedo that follows an Acoustic torpedo would defeat CAT. In other words the Acoustic Torpedo would send course Data to an otherwise unguided (none Acoustic) following weapon. If the acoustic weapon is taken out the following Torpedo finishes the job, as there is nothing for the CAT to attack?
Obviously this would only work against surface targets, and would be far from foolproof, but does serve as a reminder that any counter can in turn be countered!

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 23 Dec 2018, 15:22

abc123 wrote:OK, I know that Fleur de lis is used in British heraldics as well, but isn't that a symbol much more connected with France? ( about carpet )

There was a dual monarchy during 1422–1453, where both England and France were ruled by Kings of England, we "borrowed" the symbol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_mona ... and_France.

And England's Royal Arms (aka "Three Lions") were introduced in the 12th century by Plantagenet kings, whose origins were from France. Originally, the lions were called leopards in France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arms_of_England

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby abc123 » 23 Dec 2018, 16:59

SKB wrote:
abc123 wrote:OK, I know that Fleur de lis is used in British heraldics as well, but isn't that a symbol much more connected with France? ( about carpet )

There was a dual monarchy during 1422–1453, where both England and France were ruled by Kings of England, we "borrowed" the symbol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_mona ... and_France.

And England's Royal Arms (aka "Three Lions") were introduced in the 12th century by Plantagenet kings, whose origins were from France. Originally, the lions were called leopards in France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arms_of_England



Yes, yes, I know all of that, but as I said, FDL is really more a symbol of France than England.
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Halidon » 23 Dec 2018, 17:25

abc123 wrote:
SKB wrote:
abc123 wrote:OK, I know that Fleur de lis is used in British heraldics as well, but isn't that a symbol much more connected with France? ( about carpet )

There was a dual monarchy during 1422–1453, where both England and France were ruled by Kings of England, we "borrowed" the symbol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_mona ... and_France.

And England's Royal Arms (aka "Three Lions") were introduced in the 12th century by Plantagenet kings, whose origins were from France. Originally, the lions were called leopards in France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arms_of_England



Yes, yes, I know all of that, but as I said, FDL is really more a symbol of France than England.

The cheeky answer might be that they're walking all over the Fleur the way the Royal Navy often walked all over the French :lol:

But really, as she's named for Elizabeth I (who used the quarted English and French arms as her father had) and as it's both predominantly blue and a regal-looking pattern, it's pretty unsurprising they would use it.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby abc123 » 23 Dec 2018, 17:30

Halidon wrote:
abc123 wrote:
SKB wrote:
abc123 wrote:OK, I know that Fleur de lis is used in British heraldics as well, but isn't that a symbol much more connected with France? ( about carpet )

There was a dual monarchy during 1422–1453, where both England and France were ruled by Kings of England, we "borrowed" the symbol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_mona ... and_France.

And England's Royal Arms (aka "Three Lions") were introduced in the 12th century by Plantagenet kings, whose origins were from France. Originally, the lions were called leopards in France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arms_of_England



Yes, yes, I know all of that, but as I said, FDL is really more a symbol of France than England.

The cheeky answer might be that they're walking all over the Fleur the way the Royal Navy often walked all over the French :lol:



:lol:
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 23 Dec 2018, 23:56

QE has been turned bows north, and another possible Phalanx tent has become visible, on the stern!


(Mark Elson) 23 Dec 2018

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Scimitar54 » 24 Dec 2018, 08:46

At this time of year it struck me that instead of paying the EU £39 Billion for a withdrawal deal, we could afford to build an additional 10 x QEC Aircraft Carriers. I know which Christmas present I would rather have! :D

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Little J » 24 Dec 2018, 09:05

Or build a third QE, then buy all the Dave B's we said we would (and give them all to the FAA), buy 2 LHD's to replace Ocean. Build a decent number of t26's, some more t45's and make the t31 what it should be...
Oh and get some Dave A's to shut the RAF up :D

But, May and her useless colleagues have fudged that right up :silent:


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