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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Poiuytrewq » 15 Oct 2020, 11:25

An excellent overview of the UK CSG participating in Exercise Joint Warrior.

https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/hms-qu ... t-warrior/

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Postby Sunk at Narvik » 15 Oct 2020, 13:47

Looks bloody cold out there!


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Postby Jdam » 15 Oct 2020, 21:28

Beat me to it, some great shots going about, pity its over. :(

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Postby Tempest414 » 16 Oct 2020, 10:15

Now it is time we got some photos of the LRG together in the Med

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby inch » 16 Oct 2020, 10:51

Be great to know what they learned in the exercise ,but we never going to be told that ,or what the lessons the usmc took away from it and what they think of lizzy

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Postby Poiuytrewq » 16 Oct 2020, 11:48

inch wrote:what the lessons the usmc took away from it and what they think of lizzy
We might get to hear about that.

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Postby SKB » 16 Oct 2020, 11:53

inch wrote:Be great to know what they learned in the exercise

"We have learnt that we need to buy more planes and to stop scrounging them off the Septics.", someone in the MoD didn't say today. :mrgreen:

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Postby Poiuytrewq » 16 Oct 2020, 13:30

Minor issue but prepare for the headlines!

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defen ... od-3005579

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Postby PhillyJ » 16 Oct 2020, 22:27

Poiuytrewq wrote:Minor issue but prepare for the headlines!

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defen ... od-3005579
:roll: Indeed, she seemed to be floating well enough when we went past on a harbour tour this morning but no doubt she was close to sinking...

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Postby SKB » 21 Oct 2020, 16:44

Image
(The News, Portsmouth) 21st October 2020
Wow! Pic of the day goes to John Austin from Gosport who took this beautiful Trafalgar Day rainbow falling on HMS Queen Elizabeth. Just perfect!

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Postby Ron5 » 21 Oct 2020, 17:33

Hope there's a pot of defense gold at the end of it.

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Postby Scimitar54 » 21 Oct 2020, 18:24

Greenpeace credentials as “Rainbow Warrior”??? :mrgreen:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Digger22 » 21 Oct 2020, 20:06

A few QE shots on the 6pm news tonight, for those with i-player, nothing new though.

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Postby BlueD954 » 23 Oct 2020, 13:36

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... -navy.html

BAE advertising the Queen Elizabeth-classes at the virtual Euronaval exhibition

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... -navy.html

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Postby Ron5 » 23 Oct 2020, 19:27

I expect a virtual line quickly formed at their virtual booth to place some virtual orders :D

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby seaspear » 23 Oct 2020, 19:56

The promotion listed a top speed of 25 knots I seem to recall it was approaching 30 on trials

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Postby Timmymagic » 23 Oct 2020, 20:14

seaspear wrote:The promotion listed a top speed of 25 knots I seem to recall it was approaching 30 on trials


They're not allowed to state the top speed. 25 knots is the contractual minimum top speed, at end of life (50 years) with worn machinery, dirty hull and all growth margin used up.

QE did hit over 29 knots on builders trials, then the AIS was switched off. There was an interview in The Engineer magazine when she was floated out where a member of the programme stated that QE would be capable of at least 32 knots. If they've hit that....she's actually the fastest carrier in service (or planned).

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Postby Wrekin1410 » 24 Oct 2020, 14:55

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/hms-que ... ed-trials/

Dug out this link to an article in UK Defence Journal about the carriers speed.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby serge750 » 24 Oct 2020, 18:38

Timmymagic wrote:
seaspear wrote:The promotion listed a top speed of 25 knots I seem to recall it was approaching 30 on trials


They're not allowed to state the top speed. 25 knots is the contractual minimum top speed, at end of life (50 years) with worn machinery, dirty hull and all growth margin used up.

QE did hit over 29 knots on builders trials, then the AIS was switched off. There was an interview in The Engineer magazine when she was floated out where a member of the programme stated that QE would be capable of at least 32 knots. If they've hit that....she's actually the fastest carrier in service (or planned).


Thought the big o" American CVN's were over 33knts? but they do have 250 000hp !!! compared to only 130 000 ? for a QEC :lol:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 24 Oct 2020, 20:00

Four props on a Nimitz compared to two on a QEC. Thats all you need to know.

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Postby seaspear » 24 Oct 2020, 20:19

Reading more on the MT30 perhaps explains why the ship has been able to achieve this speed ,I have included this article the last sentence brings back some memories lol
https://www.theengineer.co.uk/rolls-roy ... -the-seas/

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Timmymagic » 24 Oct 2020, 21:35

serge750 wrote:Thought the big o" American CVN's were over 33knts? but they do have 250 000hp !!! compared to only 130 000 ? for a QEC


I'm afraid not. They top out at 31.5 knots. There isn't any secret sauce that will get them beyond that.

The fastest carriers ever were the Forrestal's.....Enterprise was the fastest nuke at 33.5 knots.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Old RN » 25 Oct 2020, 08:11

I very much doubt 32kt - I would expect about 28+? It is important to understand that drag is a square (or even cube) funtion of speed. I was on a County class in the 1970s and we could reach 27kt on steam plant only (30,000hp) and 32kt with gas turbines (30,000hp) added. So QE at 28kt on 80MW and Nimitz at 32kt on just over twice as much sounds reasonable.


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