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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 13 Nov 2019, 09:30

Seems like PWLS is playing around off Devon, still no official entry time/date from my lad but lead to be believe from past updates it could be very soon.

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Postby jcs1959 » 13 Nov 2019, 10:11

Aethelwulf, totally agree with all you say about RAS, even with the new transfer capabilities of the Tides and future FSS. I suspect the ability to launch F35 during RAS is more about CAP aircraft on alert 5 or 20 if needed and not about launching strike packages.

Of course you wouldn't plan your RAS within the operational area anyway as has always been the case.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 13 Nov 2019, 10:42

According to MarineTraffice there are a couple of German Naval vessels in and around PWLS and her current position, possible photo opportunity?

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 13 Nov 2019, 12:04

QHM update for Thursday Shipping movements shows no sign of the channels being closed around the midday HW mark, so that's one of the days my lad told me PWLS might come home crossed off the list. MarineTraffic has her moving away from Torbay and heading towards Portland now.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Monty1985 » 13 Nov 2019, 14:27

I have a friend who works in the harbour and the rumour going around is Friday at around 1325..

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 13 Nov 2019, 15:04

Monty1985 wrote:I have a friend who works in the harbour and the rumour going around is Friday at around 1325..
15th was another date mentioned by my son, as well as the 18th and 29th! Supposedly the Tug masters have been told Friday but as this appeared on FB not sure how valid that comment was. Hightide is 12:49 so perhaps it will be a Friday lunchtime arrival. The QHM Shipping movements webpage generally updates around lunchtime so keep an eye on that.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 13 Nov 2019, 16:54

PoW neared the Isle Of Wight's west coast, but has turned back west.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Ron5 » 13 Nov 2019, 17:13

cockneyjock1974 wrote:A question I’ve long thought about and will probably never know due to OPSEC reasons, is can a fully laden (fuel & weapons) F35B take off from the deck of the QE class? If so I would imagine take off would be much closer to the stern.


Can the F-35B take off from the CVF's at max TOW? The quick answer is yes, well within the types capabilities. The longer answer is that there will probably be environmental limits that would be classified.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Ron5 » 13 Nov 2019, 17:15

Aethulwulf wrote:The main constraint of RAS is that you are sailing on a fixed bearing and a fixed speed for a long time (could be up to 5 hours).

Of course you need to ensure that you have clear seas ahead of you for the full time of RAS and, if possible, you choose a bearing that is into the wind direction. But wind directions often shift over time.

Flight operations during RAS will depend upon what wind over deck is needed for any launch; during RAS you're stuck with what you've got.


Luckily STOVL ops are much less sensitive to WOD strength & direction. Aircraft can even launch off the stern.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 13 Nov 2019, 20:52

Quite impressive pics here, I wonder how my nipper faired in this sea state. :sick:



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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 14 Nov 2019, 10:26

PhillyJ wrote:
Monty1985 wrote:I have a friend who works in the harbour and the rumour going around is Friday at around 1325..
15th was another date mentioned by my son, as well as the 18th and 29th! Supposedly the Tug masters have been told Friday but as this appeared on FB not sure how valid that comment was. Hightide is 12:49 so perhaps it will be a Friday lunchtime arrival. The QHM Shipping movements webpage generally updates around lunchtime so keep an eye on that.
QHM movements posted for tomorrow and nothing showing regarding channel closures, so not looking likely. I have heard that Saturday Lunchtime is looking favourable at the moment.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 14 Nov 2019, 12:15

HMS Prince of Wales to arrive in Portsmouth on Saturday 16th November 2019.

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Portsmouth predictions (16th):
High Water: 13:24
Weather: Cloudy
Air Temperature: 9°C/48°F
Wind: 8 mph/6.9kts
Chance of Rain: 20%
Rochdale vs Pompey: Away Win :mrgreen:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 14 Nov 2019, 13:38

SKB wrote:Portsmouth predictions (16th):
High Water: 13:24
Weather: Cloudy
Air Temperature: 9°C/48°F
Wind: 8 mph/6.9kts
Chance of Rain: 20%
Rochdale vs Pompey: Away Win :mrgreen:

I almost believed your post til I saw that last one! Thankfully I've been too busy watching my young Daughter playing footie to get down to FP to see those last minute equalisers. :crazy:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 14 Nov 2019, 14:09


There was a gun salute from Portsmouth dockyard at noon too.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby cky7 » 14 Nov 2019, 20:13

repeat of post in General discussion as as there’s loads of Relevant discussion to QEs....

Anyone with an interest in military aviation REALLY should check this podcast out. I discovered them through the excellent aircrew interviews on YouTube. Bunch of reallly experienced U.K. pilots chatting aviation and about their experiences - including what they’ve been up to last months. Between them you’re talking guys who’ve flown typhoons, Tonkas, harriers, all the teen US types and the f22 and 35. A guy who has been an instructor and then test pilot for both U.K. and US. currently listening to debate on their feelings on simulators vs real thing, with particular interest in the f35s on QEs. Absolutely fascinating and some snippets I was amazed was freely talked about unclassified. Really check this out, hours of fascinating listening.

https://play.acast.com/s/pilotepisodes/ ... 443c15b008

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Timmymagic » 14 Nov 2019, 20:16

Not into models myself (apart from the catwalk type), but just in case anyone is into it...


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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 14 Nov 2019, 23:17


(ForcesTV) 14th November 2019
For the first time in nearly a decade, British fighter jets flew from a British aircraft carrier last month. We were the only British broadcaster on board HMS Queen Elizabeth to see the F-35Bs in action. The arrival of the jets meant the carrier strike group could enter the next stage of operational testing.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 15 Nov 2019, 07:43

Things are moving at a pace now with the testing.


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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 15 Nov 2019, 08:10

Someone has just posted that the NOTAM has been lifted for Saturday. I do not have access to that website, so cannot confirm. :problem:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Timmymagic » 15 Nov 2019, 09:49

PhillyJ wrote:Someone has just posted that the NOTAM has been lifted for Saturday. I do not have access to that website, so cannot confirm.


Weather doesn't seem that bad, wind wise on saturday, certainly better on sunday though.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 15 Nov 2019, 11:38

Timmymagic wrote:
PhillyJ wrote:Someone has just posted that the NOTAM has been lifted for Saturday. I do not have access to that website, so cannot confirm.


Weather doesn't seem that bad, wind wise on saturday, certainly better on sunday though.
Well it is now up on the QHM website as coming in tomorrow so that's good enough for me. I will be stood on the Jetty freezing my nuts off waiting to see her and my lad home, we also get a visit on board once she is alongside so that's an unexpected bonus.

I can also add that a flypast of sorts is planned, weather dependant, of a couple of 'copters and Hawks.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 15 Nov 2019, 11:45

Official! :clap:


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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 15 Nov 2019, 12:29

Once PWLS is in and I'm back home with my nipper I shall raise a glass to Desterswo and all those who have followed this project over the years who cannot be here to see what has been achieved now.

Who would've thought that the RN would have 2 'super' (hate that word) carriers at sea for our future, the fact that I now have a son who is on PWLS is quite amazing having followed this thread in it's earlier days when he was still at school.

BZ to all, really looking forward to tomorrow as apparently Gunner Johnson and the rest of the crew can show their family around once she is alongside, finally I get aboard one and I apologise for the personal gushings and updates over the last few days, he has been missed, apparently!

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Timmymagic » 15 Nov 2019, 13:28

PhillyJ wrote:Once PWLS is in and I'm back home with my nipper I shall raise a glass to Desterswo and all those who have followed this project over the years who cannot be here to see what has been achieved now.


Desertswo was a lovely guy, popped up on loads of forums, always with some decent info.


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