Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

[Ron5]

Note Vixen taking on AEW from Merlin.

Good to see theirs something pointing in that direction. AEW from Merlin is the biggest weakness in the carrier groups defence.

Don't hold your breath on that

[Scimitar54]

Project “Crystal Ball” might become appropriate, but of course no “Control”.

[topman]

I wonder how much of all this will remain a marketing drawing.

A lot of countries are running lots of loyal wingman type programs so I think it's a pretty safe bet we'll be seeing them. Probably sooner rather than later.

On a UK aircraft carrier, we'll see I suppose.

[SW1]

This will bring a flood of comments

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14651188/ ... beth-leak/

THE Navy’s flagship aircraft carrier has sprung a leak — just weeks before she sets off on her maiden round-the-world voyage.

Thousands of gallons of salt water flooded the 65,000-ton HMS Queen Elizabeth as she sailed from Portsmouth to Scotland last month.

[Ron5]

I wonder how much of all this will remain a marketing drawing.

A lot of countries are running lots of loyal wingman type programs so I think it's a pretty safe bet we'll be seeing them. Probably sooner rather than later.

On a UK aircraft carrier, we'll see I suppose.

Nearly forgot you were RAF.

[Ron5]

This will bring a flood of comments

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14651188/ ... beth-leak/

THE Navy’s flagship aircraft carrier has sprung a leak — just weeks before she sets off on her maiden round-the-world voyage.

Thousands of gallons of salt water flooded the 65,000-ton HMS Queen Elizabeth as she sailed from Portsmouth to Scotland last month.

Labour’s Stephen Morgan looks a right shower.

[topman]

I wonder how much of all this will remain a marketing drawing.

A lot of countries are running lots of loyal wingman type programs so I think it's a pretty safe bet we'll be seeing them. Probably sooner rather than later.

On a UK aircraft carrier, we'll see I suppose.

Nearly forgot you were RAF.

I'm not sure what my job has to do with the chances of them ever operating off a UK carrier?

[downsizer]

I wonder how much of all this will remain a marketing drawing.

A lot of countries are running lots of loyal wingman type programs so I think it's a pretty safe bet we'll be seeing them. Probably sooner rather than later.

On a UK aircraft carrier, we'll see I suppose.

Nearly forgot you were RAF.

I'm not sure what my job has to do with the chances of them ever operating off a UK carrier?

Nothing of course, but cheap shots and trolling feed his know it all ego.

[inch]

Just been having another thought experiment today (slow day) but could a qe class be lengthened by having a middle section inserted ,not saying it needs one some say are too big anyway but could it be done or just impossible now ? Thanks

[serge750]

If enough money was found anything is possible...lots of the carriers after WW2 had major refits with angled decks putting lifts in different places etc,

Not sure but i think HMS Victorious ( R38 ) had the most done to her...?

[Timmymagic]

Just been having another thought experiment today (slow day) but could a qe class be lengthened by having a middle section inserted ,not saying it needs one some say are too big anyway but could it be done or just impossible now ? Thanks

Yes, and its reasonably common in the civilian world. But...it would affect the hull form, handling and stability of the ship so would need to be done with a lot of care. It would obviously take a while and cost a fortune as well...

[Ron5]

Just been having another thought experiment today (slow day) but could a qe class be lengthened by having a middle section inserted ,not saying it needs one some say are too big anyway but could it be done or just impossible now ? Thanks

Yes, and its reasonably common in the civilian world. But...it would affect the hull form, handling and stability of the ship so would need to be done with a lot of care. It would obviously take a while and cost a fortune as well...

I don't think there is anywhere in the UK this could be done but I can't think of any reason why not.

[ETH]

I don't think there is anywhere in the UK this could be done but I can't think of any reason why not.

What’s wrong with Rosyth?

[Ron5]

I don't think there is anywhere in the UK this could be done but I can't think of any reason why not.

What’s wrong with Rosyth?

Dock not long enough surely?

[ETH]

I don't think there is anywhere in the UK this could be done but I can't think of any reason why not.

What’s wrong with Rosyth?

Dock not long enough surely?

Depends how much of an extension we’re talking. The QE class as it is now was not the longest iteration in the design process. The dock they were assembled in is about 320m long so gives some more wiggle room.

[inch]

Cheers you guys ,like I said before don't think needs it or would happen but just wondered if possible ,and by your answers it could be possible ,50yrs service life along time and I quess we never know what future plans might be needed say 30 yrs from now ,so there is lots of scope if you guys are correct , cheers

[SW1]

The main dock at Harland and Wolff Belfast is 550m long the second dock 350m.

[ETH]

The main dock at Harland and Wolff Belfast is 550m long the second dock 350m.

Could say it’s... Titanic?

[Ron5]

You would, in theory, need dock large enough for the carrier to be cut in two, the halves pulled apart to leave enough room for the new center block to be built in situ before pushing them all back together. The dock would also need to have enough infrastructure to support building a new block and a skilled workforce.

We're talking about a dock upwards of 400m in length in an active shipyard. I don't think there is such a location in the UK.

[Jdam]

Busy few months coming up for the Queen Elizabeth.

I dont know why but I thought the Price of Wales was scheduled for Joint Warrior. I must be that desperate to see her back at sea I am getting confused.

[serge750]

Interesting they may send 2 ships the black sea....

[serge750]

You would, in theory, need dock large enough for the carrier to be cut in two, the halves pulled apart to leave enough room for the new center block to be built in situ before pushing them all back together. The dock would also need to have enough infrastructure to support building a new block and a skilled workforce.

We're talking about a dock upwards of 400m in length in an active shipyard. I don't think there is such a location in the UK.

Could they not cut a QEC were they wanted to put the block in, then float out the rear section then float in a pre made section ( from portsmouth? as an example ) weld it in place then float in the rear section? heck of Lot of work would be involved

Be better ( maybe cheaper, if no bells n whistles ) of building a smaller 3rd flat top to replace HMS Ocean but interesting idea

[Jdam]

Interesting they may send 2 ships the black sea....

Wonder if that may accelerate someones plans for their forces in the area?

[abc123]

Interesting they may send 2 ships the black sea....

Someone allways don't get's the memo...

[serge750]

Just very surprised they will send 2 ships instead of 1 to the black sea, Could the whole QEC group go to the black sea for a week or so, as a show of commitment to the region or would that be overdoing it...