Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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I wonder if there is any role for a CTO with F35 on QE class? The early cgi showed them taking off conventionally without any obvious use of the lift fan etc? Anyone know if that has been tested or the idea binned?

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Digger22 wrote:I wonder if there is any role for a CTO with F35 on QE class? The early cgi showed them taking off conventionally without any obvious use of the lift fan etc? Anyone know if that has been tested or the idea binned?
Pretty much just low budget CGI lacking animations for the 3D model of the F-35's engine, wouldn't read anything into it.

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CTO with Vertical Landing is about the worse combination possible.
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not news, but a bit of fun from @HMSQnlz


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QE might not have mentioned Top Gun, but the RN released this video 29 September....

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Digger22 wrote:I wonder if there is any role for a CTO with F35 on QE class?
The F-135 puts out a lot of thrust, but like the Russian's and Chnese have found out with their STOBAR carriers you're not going to be able to carry much off the deck in the way of fuel or stores, so there isn't much point trying really..

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hovematlot wrote: That's it then for this year. Looking forward to next years Westlant19 with 617 Squadron Embarked.
Interesting they’ve only made a combined total of 404 landings and takeoffs when originally over 500 were expected (from September quotes at the start of westlant18).

A sign of just how well the marriage of ship and aircraft helped by all the years of planning have gone?

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Timmymagic wrote:
Digger22 wrote:I wonder if there is any role for a CTO with F35 on QE class?
The F-135 puts out a lot of thrust, but like the Russian's and Chnese have found out with their STOBAR carriers you're not going to be able to carry much off the deck in the way of fuel or stores, so there isn't much point trying really..
I was surprised by the cgi showing CTO in the first place. Sometimes these things are done by accident, sometimes they can show a train of thought.
Clearly not in this case.

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Another model of HMNB Portsmouth with both QE Class at home. Borrowed from HMNB Portsmouth FB page.
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HMS Queen Elizabeth, RFA Tidespring, HMS Monmouth and Blackjack.

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PhillyJ wrote:Another model of HMNB Portsmouth with both QE Class at home. Borrowed from HMNB Portsmouth FB page.
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Unfortunately D lock mods and modifications to northern jetty to create a QE dock have vanished since last year... guess there is not a penny for that.
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Gabriele wrote:Unfortunately D lock mods and modifications to northern jetty to create a QE dock have vanished since last year... guess there is not a penny for that.
Possibly, although the model is not 100% accurate as it has HMS Victory with all 3 of here main masts at full height, not sure if that will ever happen again. :-(

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PhillyJ wrote:
Gabriele wrote:Unfortunately D lock mods and modifications to northern jetty to create a QE dock have vanished since last year... guess there is not a penny for that.
Possibly, although the model is not 100% accurate as it has HMS Victory with all 3 of here main masts at full height, not sure if that will ever happen again. :-(
Might just depend on how short of ships they get lol

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HMS Queen Elizabeth alongside in Norfolk, courtesy of Stefann Watkins/Planet Labs on Twitter.


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Very nice, Royal Navy back in the big league!
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imperialman wrote:HMS Queen Elizabeth alongside in Norfolk, courtesy of Stefann Watkins/Planet Labs on Twitter.


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You can see that the Nimitz is bigger but not by a great deal, really shows how massive she is :o

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Just ashame she wasn't bearthed other way around for a real good end to end comparison photo ,but yes alot closer in size than the invicable class for sure but you got to admit then American carriers are huge concidering they been about since the 1960s I think

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QEvsCVN.PNG
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About 1/6 or 16-ish % shorter,
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Some news....
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SKB wrote:
QEvsCVN.PNG
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About 1/6 shorter
That'd not too bad considering the nose of the Nimitz is at longer than that of the QE

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You could pick QE up and put her on Nimitz deck :shifty:

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Some new pics sourced from Navy Lookout:
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Another illustration of the comparisons.
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Personally I think the QE's are big enough :thumbup:

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Poiuytrewq wrote:Another illustration of the comparisons.
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Personally I think the QE's are big enough :thumbup:
These sort of images need to be taken with a pinch of salt, if you look the America class looks wider than Cavour when it's only 32m beam to 39m beam

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Just done a measurement of QE's overall length from that aerial photo, the QE is exactly 280 metres long when compared to a 333 metre long CVN.
(QE: 918.635 feet, CVN: 1092.52 feet)

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