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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Gabriele » 04 Nov 2018, 17:58

Out of memory, they are four decks up from the water when in the bottom position. Waves of 12 or more meters would be needed.
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Postby seaspear » 04 Nov 2018, 20:39

That would be in the range of sea state eight very unlikely to be any flight operations

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby hovematlot » 05 Nov 2018, 12:08

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Work on HMS Prince Of Wales Jetty has started. Will be quite a sight to see both carriers in Portsmouth together.
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Postby Ron5 » 05 Nov 2018, 18:02

Seems a bit small

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Postby PhillyJ » 06 Nov 2018, 10:07

I'm assuming it's not finished yet! I guess those pesky eels have stopped 'shagging' and work can continue. Picture below shows the 2 QE class in harbour, it seems one jetty will not be as long as the other due to constraints of the historic dockyard but will be fine.
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 06 Nov 2018, 13:17

Has anyone spotted a similar image of the Oman facility... there have been some Google images of the wider area
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Postby PhillyJ » 06 Nov 2018, 13:51

ArmChairCivvy wrote:Has anyone spotted a similar image of the Oman facility... there have been some Google images of the wider area
I've only seen these. From what I remember the QE Class will not be able to come alongside due to the depth restrictions but can use the facilities.

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International warships, including RFA Cardigan Bay and HMS Dragon, moored in Bahrain [Picture: Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Michael Sandberg, US Navy]
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Postby RichardIC » 06 Nov 2018, 15:15

PhillyJ wrote:I've only seen these. From what I remember the QE Class will not be able to come alongside due to the depth restrictions but can use the facilities.


The question is refering to Duqm in Oman rather than Bahrain. It's a deep water port and apparently QE can not only berth but be dry-docked there - using existing facilities rather than anything bespoke.

https://www.duqm1.com/2017/08/duqm-to-accommodate-uks-flagship-hms.html

But it looks like a God awful run ashore.

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Postby ArmChairCivvy » 06 Nov 2018, 16:57

RichardIC wrote: a God awful run ashore.


A good thing we might have some land power around there, too, so that the carrier will not change hands overnight:
the proposed building material distribution centre will provide everything (for the construction sector), from steel bar to furniture.



Since Duqm has a fully fledged port facility, import and export will be much easy.

The building material distribution centre is part of the 10 projects planned by Chinese companies in Duqm and is coming up within the China Oman Industrial Park, which has a huge area of 11.72 square kilometres."

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Dahedd » 06 Nov 2018, 20:52

Don't see either a T45 or a Bay along side in the above pic. A USN San Antonia lpd yes but no big UK stuff.

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Postby SKB » 06 Nov 2018, 23:25


(Lockheed Martin) 6 Nov 2018
Bryan Dowling is the Lockheed Martin aircraft supervisor for BF-5, one of the F-35Bs conducting testing aboard the ship. In this role, he works above the flight deck with a focus on the safety of the jet, crew and pilot.

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Postby R686 » 07 Nov 2018, 02:58

PhillyJ wrote:I'm assuming it's not finished yet! I guess those pesky eels have stopped 'shagging' and work can continue. Picture below shows the 2 QE class in harbour, it seems one jetty will not be as long as the other due to constraints of the historic dockyard but will be fine.
Picture courtesy of http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk
Princess Royal Jetty foreground.jpg


Must be the strategic reserve/mothballed ship jetty

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 07 Nov 2018, 06:05

hovematlot wrote:Work on HMS Prince Of Wales Jetty has started.

Is that to be the new southern end of Victory Jetty? It'll block the Camber and King's Stairs. Already a tight squeeze in and out for small boats.

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Postby swoop » 07 Nov 2018, 07:41

SKB wrote:Is that to be the new southern end of Victory Jetty? It'll block the Camber and King's Steps. Already a tight squeeze in an out for small boats.

It looks like one of Victory's masts in the background, so would indicate the Southern end.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby gordon44 » 07 Nov 2018, 08:55

Off interest to many , a programme on the BBC i player i found. Some good shots of Hms Prince of Wales at Rosyth.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bqs96t

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 07 Nov 2018, 10:39

RichardIC wrote:The question is refering to Duqm in Oman rather than Bahrain. It's a deep water port and apparently QE can not only berth but be dry-docked there - using existing facilities rather than anything bespoke.
Ah sorry, my mistake. Got a bit bored waiting for something to run at work and found these which I think are the right ones.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 07 Nov 2018, 12:29

So we have the 'first right of refusal' to the outermost pier?
- where is the dry dock? It can take QEs (and won't sink, like the one in Russia)?

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby hovematlot » 07 Nov 2018, 21:05

SKB wrote:
hovematlot wrote:Work on HMS Prince Of Wales Jetty has started.

Is that to be the new southern end of Victory Jetty? It'll block the Camber and King's Steps. Already a tight squeeze in an out for small boats.


I think this is actually just a dolphin and not part of a bigger jetty. Just for the carriers stern or head ropes.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby hovematlot » 07 Nov 2018, 21:21

Tonight (7th Nov) BBC FOUR 2200 - Captain Jack and the Furious Few. Documentary about a pioneering naval aviator from Northern Ireland. Has a lot of footage of HMS Prince of Wales

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Ron5 » 07 Nov 2018, 22:50

hovematlot wrote:Captain Jack and the Furious Few


I recently read Guy Warner's biography of Jack based on Jack's many letters. Rather boring I'm afraid.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 08 Nov 2018, 11:17

Tidespring has taken Tiderace's place for Westlant18

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 10 Nov 2018, 11:39

PoW Update

(Forces TV) 9 Nov 2018
This time next year, it is hoped that the UK's next aircraft carrier, HMS Prince of Wales, will leave Rosyth dockyard to begin sea trials. The second Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carrier is in the final stages of construction in Scotland and has been designed to carry the F-35B aircraft.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 10 Nov 2018, 12:13

^ Fascinating. I had no idea that the ski jump is cambered, with port/left/outer side lower than the starboard/right/inner side.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Scimitar54 » 10 Nov 2018, 13:50

Port/Left/Outer side & Starboard/Right/Inner side I think you meant to say. Too many Pink Plymouths perhaps?

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Timmymagic » 12 Nov 2018, 16:41

Later noted by the author of the tweet that its the Michael Monsoor. And a Burke Class leading. Taken from the Tidespring I believe.



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