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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Pseudo » 26 Apr 2018, 13:58

shark bait wrote:brand new carrier with a 90's aircraft?

IIRC the major motivation was the concern at the time that there seemed to be no light at the end of the F-35 tunnel. Buying Super Hornet's was seen as a safe option to get the carrier in to service with a fixed-wing airgroup. Fortunately, things have changed since then.

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Postby QEC Eye in the SKY » 26 Apr 2018, 14:54

cockneyjock1974 wrote:Can somebody stick episode 2 on YouTube. I’m in Spain and can’t watch it.

Ps mp.net had a huge following of going for legacy hornets and CATOBAR, myself included. But that was when the B was close to being shelved and we were told only one carrier. For me the Dave B having a similar range to to the F18C was the crossover point.


I too was one of those going for the hornets and CATOBAR on QNLZ, if you recall. Having a friend who currently flies the SuperHornet in the USN, I understand how good the SuperHornet is, plus apart from the F35, what other aircraft is currently in production for carrier aviation?


I don't see QNLZ EVER having SuperHornets on her deck this side of 2030, but who knows if we will ever see F35C's on either QNLZ or PWLS after a refit?

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Little J » 26 Apr 2018, 15:22

QEC Eye in the SKY wrote:from the F35, what other aircraft is currently in production for carrier aviation?


That would be the Rafale, the other frequently mentioned alternative to F-35 C and the Rhino ;)

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby shark bait » 26 Apr 2018, 16:03

Sea typhoon?
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Postby Zealot » 26 Apr 2018, 16:30

Ron5 wrote:Why is it that this kind of theft is deemed to be OK?

Just asking.


Just to clarify, it is legal to use a VPN in the United Kingdom. There is not a single UK law nor EU law which would forbid or prevent you from doing so. You’re well within your rights to use the app that I linked to access BBC.co.uk

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Pseudo » 26 Apr 2018, 16:40

Zealot wrote:
Ron5 wrote:Why is it that this kind of theft is deemed to be OK?

Just asking.


Just to clarify, it is legal to use a VPN in the United Kingdom. There is not a single UK law nor EU law which would forbid or prevent you from doing so. You’re well within your rights to use the app that I linked to access BBC.co.uk

That's true, but if you're using iPlayer without paying the licence fee you're breaking the law.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Zealot » 26 Apr 2018, 16:46

Pseudo wrote:
Zealot wrote:
Ron5 wrote:Why is it that this kind of theft is deemed to be OK?

Just asking.


Just to clarify, it is legal to use a VPN in the United Kingdom. There is not a single UK law nor EU law which would forbid or prevent you from doing so. You’re well within your rights to use the app that I linked to access BBC.co.uk

That's true, but if you're using iPlayer without paying the licence fee you're breaking the law.


Not on the Website, the Website only requires a simple ticked box, a loop hole essentially. This system is what Uni Students across the UK Legally use.

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Postby Pseudo » 26 Apr 2018, 19:02

Zealot wrote:Not on the Website, the Website only requires a simple ticked box, a loop hole essentially. This system is what Uni Students across the UK Legally use.

The TV Licencing agency disagrees with you.

It was legal to access iPlayer for catchup services until the government closed the loophole and made it illegal in September 2016. The tick box to which you refer asks you whether you have a TV licence and those uni students aren't accessing iPlayer legally if they don't have a TV licence.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby R686 » 26 Apr 2018, 22:10

TV license :crazy: bloody hell, I thought it was bad enough when we had to get fishing licenses

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Postby Caribbean » 27 Apr 2018, 02:26

Pseudo wrote:The TV Licencing agency disagrees with you.

Yup - technically illegal. I used to watch the Beeb via VPN in the Caribbean, but I also still paid for a UK TV license, so I didn't feel as if I was really cheating (I also had a Sky and UK Netflix subscription, so I watched those as well - combined, they were still half the price of local cable). The BBC does offer a "BBC Australia" service (and also for various other countries), but I don't think its the full BBC content, so the QNLZ documentary may not be available. Worth checking, though
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby R686 » 27 Apr 2018, 06:32

Caribbean wrote:
Pseudo wrote:The TV Licencing agency disagrees with you.

The BBC does offer a "BBC Australia" service (and also for various other countries), but I don't think its the full BBC content, so the QNLZ documentary may not be available. Worth checking, though


Yep I'll look into it over the weekend :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby sea_eagle » 27 Apr 2018, 21:22

R686 wrote:TV license bloody hell, I thought it was bad enough when we had to get fishing licenses

Hopefully last word on this topic, but does this mean the QEC needs a TV License? :crazy:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Pseudo » 27 Apr 2018, 21:30

sea_eagle wrote:
R686 wrote:TV license bloody hell, I thought it was bad enough when we had to get fishing licenses

Hopefully last word on this topic, but does this mean the QEC needs a TV License? :crazy:

According to the TV licencing website it does.
When living aboard an HM Ship, you will be covered by the ship’s TV Licence.

One TV Licence covers the whole ship and is a requirement if anyone living aboard watches or records live TV on any channel or device, or downloads or watches BBC programmes on iPlayer. This applies whenever an HM Ship is in UK territories, including ports and internal waters.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 28 Apr 2018, 10:23


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Shame. I had hoped they would repaint R08 there.
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 29 Apr 2018, 19:34



Third and last episode of this first series of Britain's Biggest Warship is now on BBC iPlayer. Expires Monday 28th May 2018.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b ... th-the-new

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Postby QEC Eye in the SKY » 30 Apr 2018, 08:54

Interesting views from the USN on last nights 'Britain's Biggest Warship', they clearly value the impact that QNLZ will have on the global stage, once she is fully up and running. Can't wait for when she gets stateside later this year for her F35's to start fixed wing trials.

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Postby Gabriele » 30 Apr 2018, 09:13

Might happen sooner rather than later. Recent minister letter to the defence committee and New York rumors suggest she might be in the US as soon as August.
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Dave » 30 Apr 2018, 10:31

Gabriele wrote:Might happen sooner rather than later. Recent minister letter to the defence committee and New York rumors suggest she might be in the US as soon as August.


So it's been delayed? The recent reports were saying June.

For example:

The training in Lancashire has now completed and in June, HMS Queen Elizabeth will sail to the eastern seaboard, where she will begin the landing tests for real.

https://www.forces.net/news/f-35-pilots ... -elizabeth

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Postby Gabriele » 30 Apr 2018, 10:40

June seems a bit too early, considering that F-35 trials were earmarked for October not long ago.
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby matt00773 » 30 Apr 2018, 12:35

Dave wrote:
Gabriele wrote:Might happen sooner rather than later. Recent minister letter to the defence committee and New York rumors suggest she might be in the US as soon as August.


So it's been delayed? The recent reports were saying June.

For example:

The training in Lancashire has now completed and in June, HMS Queen Elizabeth will sail to the eastern seaboard, where she will begin the landing tests for real.

https://www.forces.net/news/f-35-pilots ... -elizabeth


It could be that QE does indeed depart in June, but takes its time to conduct further testing before winding up in the US in August/Autumn. I've not yet seen a full schedule for the carrier.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 30 Apr 2018, 12:42

I'd been wondering how long it would take QE to get to certain places, so....

Portsmouth Harbour - New York Harbor
Distance: 3,156 nautical miles (3,631 miles or 5,844 km)

QE @ 15 knots: 8 days 18 hours
QE @ 20 knots: 6 days 14 hours
QE @ 25 knots: 5 days, 6 hours
QE @ 30 knots: 4 days, 9 hours



Portsmouth Harbour - Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, USA (via Suez Canal)
Distance: 13,949 nautical miles (16,032 miles or 25,833 km)

QE @ 15 knots: 38 days 18 hours
QE @ 20 knots: 29 days 1 hour
QE @ 25 knots: 23 days, 6 hours
QE @ 30 knots: 19 days, 9 hours


Portsmouth Harbour - Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, USA (via Panama Canal)
Distance: 9,301 nautical miles (10,703 miles or 17,225 km)

QE @ 15 knots: 25 days 20 hours
QE @ 20 knots: 19 days 9 hours
QE @ 25 knots: 15 days, 12 hours
QE @ 30 knots: 12 days, 22 hours



Portsmouth Harbour - Gibraltar
Distance: 1,149 nautical miles (1,322 miles or 2,127 km)

QE @ 15 knots: 3 days, 5 hours
QE @ 20 knots: 2 days, 9 hours
QE @ 25 knots: 1 day, 22 hours
QE @ 30 knots: 1 day, 14 hours



Portsmouth Harbour - HMS Jufair, Bahrain (via Suez Canal)
Distance: 6,179 nautical miles (7,110 miles or 11,443 km)

QE @ 15 knots: 17 days 4 hours
QE @ 20 knots: 12 days 21 hours
QE @ 25 knots: 10 days, 7 hours
QE @ 30 knots: 8 days, 14 hours



Portsmouth Harbour - Port Stanley, Falkland Islands
Distance: 6,807 nautical miles (7,833 miles or 12,606 km)

QE @ 15 knots: 18 days, 22 hours
QE @ 20 knots: 14 days, 4 hours
QE @ 25 knots: 11 days, 8 hours
QE @ 30 knots: 9 days, 11 hours



Portsmouth Harbour - Sydney Harbour, Australia (via Suez Canal)
Distance: 11,354 nautical miles (13,065 miles or 21,027 km)

QE @ 15 knots: 31 days, 13 hours
QE @ 20 knots: 23 days, 16 hours
QE @ 25 knots: 18 days, 22 hours
QE @ 30 knots: 15 days, 18 hours


Portsmouth Harbour - Sydney Harbour, Australia (via Panama Canal)
Distance: 12,286 nautical miles (14,138 miles or 22,753 km)

QE @ 15 knots: 34 days, 3 hours
QE @ 20 knots: 25 days, 14 hours
QE @ 25 knots: 20 days, 11 hours
QE @ 30 knots: 17 days, 2 hours



Portsmouth Harbour - Yokohama, Japan (via Suez Canal)
Distance: 10,964 nautical miles (12,617 miles or 20,305 km)

QE @ 15 knots: 30 days, 11 hours
QE @ 20 knots: 22 days, 20 hours
QE @ 25 knots: 18 days, 7 hours
QE @ 30 knots: 15 days, 5 hours


Portsmouth Harbour - Yokohama, Japan (via Panama Canal)
Distance: 12,300 nautical miles (14,154 miles or 22,779 km)

QE @ 15 knots: 34 days, 4 hours
QE @ 20 knots: 25 days, 15 hours
QE @ 25 knots: 20 days, 12 hours
QE @ 30 knots: 17 days, 2 hours



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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby grimbob » 30 Apr 2018, 16:44

Britain's Biggest Warship, episode three review – a rousing finale to the launch of HMS Queen Elizabeth


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2018/04/ ... inale/amp/

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Ron5 » 30 Apr 2018, 17:16

SKB wrote:I'd been wondering how long it would take QE to get to certain places, so....


Did you factor in the need for refueling? and the impact that would have?


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