Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

[ArmChairCivvy]

would be about the dumbest thing they could do

What are the modifications going to be? Capability to hold (for prolonged periods) an EMF markedly higher in number than the 250 is an obvious one... containers, hooking up to ships services(?) would eat up hangar space
- very little heard (and will be for PoW only?)

[Pymes75]

Could a LCVP be carried instead of the PTB? Maybe that's one of the mods being carried out on POW.

This has been asked before and I believe the answer was there are no plans to launch LCVPs from the QEC davits.

[ArmChairCivvy]

no plans to launch LCVPs from the QEC davits

That would be v little effect for getting the 3 bn asset so close to shore (add the airwing, and double the 3 bn)

[The Armchair Soldier]

The carriers got a small mention in Theresa May's speech in Philadelphia yesterday (32:00):

[RetroSicotte]

Could a LCVP be carried instead of the PTB? Maybe that's one of the mods being carried out on POW.

Strict theory, yes, probably.

But then the carrier has just lost its service boats, which could cause some logistical issues for the carrier's general movements in port. It's a dull, boring side to it...but I imagine it's probably quite crucial.

[Pymes75]

no plans to launch LCVPs from the QEC davits

That would be v little effect for getting the 3 bn asset so close to shore (add the airwing, and double the 3 bn)

Yes. Which is why the reply was, "there are no plans to launch LCVPs from the davits".

[shark bait]

"logistical issues..... It's a dull, boring side"

What? logistics are awesome!

[RetroSicotte]

"logistical issues..... It's a dull, boring side"

What? logistics are awesome!

Very true, just figured other might not always think that way!

[ArmChairCivvy]

Yes. Which is why the reply was, "there are no plans to launch LCVPs from the davits".

Sorry about that; should have deleted your call sign from the quote markings ... what I really wanted to say was that SB was right, but his estimate for the potential - and much more likely - loss needed doubling up.
- Not double down, which, in a no way related note (see how careful I am becoming in setting my words) on policy in internal relations and , thereby, related defence matters is becoming the norm (err, all the policy making staff is being made redundant, so the only "capacities" that will be left relate to "pulling the trigger")

[SKB]

How about winching/craning an LCVP up/down off the side of one of the lowered aircraft lifts? Nice big hangar and only 12 F-35B's aboard...

[The Armchair Soldier]

Moved the defence spending discussion to a more appropriate thread:
http://ukdefenceforum.net/viewtopic.php ... 570#p39834

[PhillyJ]

I think the coating isn't over the entire flightdeck, only over areas where vertical landings or SRVL landings would need heat protection from the jet exhausts.

I remember asking something similar myself, the ACA update from last year had more info on it. Page 2 of the following link discusses the coating. "Approximately 2,000 square metres of the 19,000 square metre flight deck will be coated, with the work due to be completed prior to sea trials in early 2017."

http://www.aircraftcarrieralliance.co.u ... y-2016.pdf

[SKB]

Heres that 'The One Show' feature about QE's deck coating, for those who missed it.

[Andy-M]

“Series Of Technical Issues” Behind HMS Queen Elizabeth Delays

http://forces.tv/90691472

[SKB]

QEC's in Bahrain question. Interesting...
http://www.parliament.uk/business/publi ... 1-04/20811

[jonas]

QEC's in Bahrain question. Interesting...
http://www.parliament.uk/business/publi ... 1-04/20811

That has been known for quite a while now, and is not really much of a problem. Most US supercarriers anchor out when on foreign port visits. Though if the UK carriers need to go alongside for any reason, then they do have a guaranteed facility :-

http://omangbnews.com/news/2016/04/04/h ... s-carriers

[SKB]

anchour?! Oh and its called a chain cable by the way...



50 years my ar*e. She's been floating in a basin for nearly 3 of them...

[SKB]

Last section of new Queensferry Crossing bridge across the Forth has been lifted into place.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02 ... ted-place/

[Pongoglo]

Just watched 'Impossible Engineering' Series 1 Episode 2 'Aircraft Carrier' about QE build etc. Very impressed to be honest, totally upbeat and very 'un-BBC', no cr*p about Carriers without planes etc that you usually get. it is a lot more than an engineering documentary, also goes into quite a lot of detail about F35 integration, SRVL, Carrier Strike etc. Every bit as good as the earlier one they did on the Astutes. Im sure most on here will have seen it but if not its on Yesterday and you can get it on most catch up TV set ups or here;

https://uktvplay.uktv.co.uk/shows/impos ... 7001331001

[ArmChairCivvy]

With this (linked by jonas) in place
"The agreement between the Oman Drydock Company, Babcock International and the UK and Omani governments once again underlines the vital importance and mutual benefit of the long term links and co-operation between the two countries. "... they can even turn around in the basin, it is that big, compared to home base, the tides, the moon (the 7th house, and all that)
and the reach of the carriers, what would be rationale for putting them through the narrow (and swallow ) straits, when this N. Iraq/ Syria situation gets hit on the head (well before the QEs being fully in service)?

[The Armchair Soldier]

Shame we can't test the ski jump the same way. Looks fun.

[SKB]

[ArmChairCivvy]

Bloopers and outtakes! I wish we could have a series on procurement projects (well, TD covered a few classics).

[R686]

Wonder now if the RN might have another look at V22, IFR looks to take of around 2019.

Also interesting about the chin mounted gun proposal, certantly make it interesting in the vertical lift role with additional self protection or even CAS.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... it-433899/

[bobp]

Perhaps when the USMC deploy on QE they may bring one along for us to play with.