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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby abc123 » 19 May 2020, 12:04

PhillyJ wrote:
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RAF>FAN wrote:https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defence/royal-navy-aircraft-carrier-hms-prince-wales-carry-out-investigation-after-flooding-onboard-2855728?amp
Indeed, ship still afloat and all crew safe and well. Cannot believe this footage made its way to a public site but heyho, my lad was not on duty so he was happy not to have to do any mopping up!


Pretty sure that a warship should not leak water like that.
No idea to be honest as never served. It seems a load of 'Old Salts' claim that they are common place on RN ships both old and new and have been since Nelson joined up as a yongster. Apparently Noah was the only person able to build something that didn't leak, but not sure what pressure he was using internally for his water pipes to hydrate his passengers. :lolno:


Sincerely, I also never served in navy ( light infantry ), so I don't know a lot too. Especially about this incident. But, if the water passes trough bulkheads ( because of the rain ), I can't see that as good thing.
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby jimthelad » 19 May 2020, 12:41

Pipes leak!! The UK seems very good at washing it's dirty laundry in public and navel gazing. Most other nations don't tend to do this- we like to make ourselves look bad to prove a political point. Looking at allies issues then QEC have been a roaring success: CdG, GRF, LCS, F125, Navantia FF, Adelaide, etc. Of course ships leak, internal HP mains will fail, it is impossible to expect that you have 100% QC in a ship with over 6000 compartments and 1Bn components.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Clive F » 19 May 2020, 13:27

More to the point how quickly was it detected and the problem sorted. But that doesn't make the news

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 19 May 2020, 14:02

Clive F wrote:More to the point how quickly was it detected and the problem sorted. But that doesn't make the news
Both very quickly apparently, and as it was the Wrens mess not seen as a huge problem (I think my Lad was joking and would never dare say that in front of one!)

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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(The Telegraph) 18th May 2020
The Royal Navy has launched an investigation following a leak aboard HMS Prince of Wales, its £3 billion aircraft carrier, while it was docked at a naval base.

Video published on Facebook showed water pouring through the ceiling into an accommodation area of the 65,000-tonne warship. The leak is understood to have taken place on Friday while the £3bn warship was at Portsmouth Naval Base.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 19 May 2020, 14:29

jimthelad wrote:Pipes leak!! The UK seems very good at washing it's dirty laundry in public and navel gazing. Most other nations don't tend to do this- we like to make ourselves look bad to prove a political point. Looking at allies issues then QEC have been a roaring success: CdG, GRF, LCS, F125, Navantia FF, Adelaide, etc. Of course ships leak, internal HP mains will fail, it is impossible to expect that you have 100% QC in a ship with over 6000 compartments and 1Bn components.
Very true and I whole heartedly agree, I think both the recent TV shows for QNLZ and Duncan have been very open about problems that can occur on a complex Warship and do not attempt to hide it. Unfortunately there will always be people that jump on these situations and beat the RN up over them.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby clivestonehouse1 » 19 May 2020, 15:12

dmereifield wrote:
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dmereifield wrote:Any details? When will she be in sight of the breakwater, if at all?
She'll be close in enough for boat transfers so seaward side of the breakwater is the most likely anchor point for her.


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Great, thanks. Any idea when? Will try to get a look at her from Bovisand. Was gutted I missed her last visit
I've been advised that she's in the sound now but can't confirm 100%.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby dmereifield » 19 May 2020, 17:23

clivestonehouse1 wrote:
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dmereifield wrote:Any details? When will she be in sight of the breakwater, if at all?
She'll be close in enough for boat transfers so seaward side of the breakwater is the most likely anchor point for her.


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Great, thanks. Any idea when? Will try to get a look at her from Bovisand. Was gutted I missed her last visit
I've been advised that she's in the sound now but can't confirm 100%.

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Sadly not, but thanks anyway

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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(Warship TV) 19th May 2020
Royal Navy 'Queen Elizabeth' class Aircraft Carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth R08 is seen undertaking exercies south of the breakwater in Plymouth Sound on 19th May 2020

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby rbw91 » 20 May 2020, 05:56

What’s that big puff of black smoke at 2m15?

Is that QE hitting the accelerator hard or something?

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby clivestonehouse1 » 20 May 2020, 09:57

rbw91 wrote:What’s that big puff of black smoke at 2m15?

Is that QE hitting the accelerator hard or something?
As long as it's not another barbecue

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 20 May 2020, 19:19

A Commando Wildcat from 847 Naval Air Squadron has landed on the deck of HMS Queen Elizabeth for the first time, say the Royal Navy.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/command ... irst-time/

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Little J » 20 May 2020, 19:36

As it says in the comments... Didn't a Wildcat land on her during Westlant 18?

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 20 May 2020, 20:49

Little J wrote:As it says in the comments... Didn't a Wildcat land on her during Westlant 18?


You're right!
September 2018. From Westlant 18. Wildcat ZZ529 "Blackjack" was assigned to T23 HMS Monmouth.


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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby whitelancer » 21 May 2020, 23:52

Different versions, Navy and Army/RM

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Scimitar54 » 22 May 2020, 13:58

Can’t wait for the first 809NAS F35b to execute a SRVL on a QEC Carrier then! :mrgreen:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby abc123 » 22 May 2020, 14:32

Scimitar54 wrote:SRVL


I was thinking that they have given up of that?
Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Scimitar54 » 22 May 2020, 17:32

Trials due to be carried out with HMS Prince of Wales I believe, on a WESTLANT deployment. I don’t recall if it is ‘20 or ‘21. HMS PoW is fitted with the Bedford Array, which will help to facilitate this. :mrgreen:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Ron5 » 22 May 2020, 18:47

abc123 wrote:
Scimitar54 wrote:SRVL


I was thinking that they have given up of that?


You were incorrect. QE's trials last year showed the practicality and usefulness of the technique. It's here to stay.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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Ron5 wrote:
abc123 wrote:
Scimitar54 wrote:SRVL


I was thinking that they have given up of that?


You were incorrect. QE's trials last year showed the practicality and usefulness of the technique. It's here to stay.


I stand corrected. :thumbup:
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What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Max Jones » 26 May 2020, 18:47


That's good news. The most recent air wing seemed a bit light on anti-submarine air assets (5 merlin mk.2s rather than 9). This should bolster that a bit on top of the anti-surface capability.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby dmereifield » 26 May 2020, 19:47

Max Jones wrote:

That's good news. The most recent air wing seemed a bit light on anti-submarine air assets (5 merlin mk.2s rather than 9). This should bolster that a bit on top of the anti-surface capability.


Don't mean to start a bout of "fantasy airwings" but do we have any details of the likely airwing composition or numbers for her first operational deployment?


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