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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby Timmymagic » 08 May 2019, 17:31

shark bait wrote:Astute class getting accessorised.

Likely the wake detection trailed on a T-boat a couple of years ago.


Am I being thick? But that is a T boat in the photo? Has this been seen on an Astute?
Seem to remember some of the sensors were on the sail last time though.

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby jimthelad » 08 May 2019, 22:58

That is HMS Talent

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby Timmymagic » 09 May 2019, 12:29

jimthelad wrote:That is HMS Talent


I think these have been seen before on a T boat, but on the sail, not sure which T boat was seen with them (it was a few years ago). loks like a new iteration of the previous system.

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby abc123 » 09 May 2019, 14:54

shark bait wrote:Likely the wake detection trailed on a T-boat a couple of years ago.



What's that?
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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby SKB » 09 May 2019, 15:23

abc123 wrote:What's that?

T-boats are the Trafalgar class SSN's. Their names all begin with T.
Their thread: viewtopic.php?f=41&t=219

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby RetroSicotte » 09 May 2019, 15:39

It's a fair question after a mistaken identity of the sub briefly (which is understandable). So long as things don't spiral, I see no reason to relocate the posts.

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby abc123 » 09 May 2019, 19:14

SKB wrote:
abc123 wrote:What's that?

T-boats are the Trafalgar class SSN's. Their names all begin with T.
Their thread: https://www.ukdefenceforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=219


I know what are Trafalgar class boats. I'm asking what's "WAKE DETECTION"?
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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 09 May 2019, 19:37

abc123 wrote:I'm asking what's "WAKE DETECTION"?

Once you detect it (from afar), then you can fire wake-homing torpedoes into it
- ooops; we don't have any such

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby Scimitar54 » 09 May 2019, 21:44

Or do we? :mrgreen:

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby Halidon » 09 May 2019, 22:30

abc123 wrote:
SKB wrote:
abc123 wrote:What's that?

T-boats are the Trafalgar class SSN's. Their names all begin with T.
Their thread: https://www.ukdefenceforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=219


I know what are Trafalgar class boats. I'm asking what's "WAKE DETECTION"?

Works by smell.

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby shark bait » 10 May 2019, 08:54

The Russians did (maybe still do) try sniffing for radiation to try and detect subs. However detecting meaningful tradition form the background sounds like an almost impossibly difficult task.

Wake detection uses radar or lidar like techniques to detect differences in water density, possibly caused by a submarine heating and mixing the water. Again very difficult to detect, and I imagine must generate lots of false positives. I guess these days they can apply some machine learning to filter out the false positives, which is maybe why the RN are interested.
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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby Poiuytrewq » 12 May 2019, 18:56

An interesting read and relevant to recent discussions.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... ion-system

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby Lord Jim » 12 May 2019, 21:28

Watching part two of the documentary it states that they intend to keep the 971 Akula class in service of up to another 30 years. If it is t be believed they will have been in service for over 50 years when they retire! Sort of puts our retirement of the T-Class in to perspective.

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby Scimitar54 » 02 Aug 2019, 15:39

Roll on the Astute batch II's!!! When those that are supposed to be responsible, start acting responsibly and order another (much needed) batch and also provide the people to operate and maintain them.

Cut the manning, reduce the number ordered & delay the programme, all to "Save" money. The production facilities then atrophy and the ability to produce a strategic necessity is lost. Result becomes slow production in insufficient numbers and at much higher cost. Politicians answer is to cut numbers yet again??? Most, if not all of the fault is theirs all the way through.

I may not be around to see it, but an SSN fleet of around 12 boats cannot arrive soon enough.

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Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Postby Digger22 » 02 Aug 2019, 19:01

At this rate, she'll be at sea before Audacious! ( I'm joking, honest!)


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