UK Defence Forum

News, History, Discussions and Debates on UK Defence.

Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Contains threads on Royal Navy equipment of the past, present and future.
Scimitar54
Member
Posts: 466
Joined: 13 Jul 2015, 05:10
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Scimitar54 » 24 Feb 2019, 13:41

And whether there are any unpleasant after effects or not.

Pongoglo
Member
Posts: 227
Joined: 14 Jun 2015, 10:39
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Pongoglo » 24 Feb 2019, 14:42

SKB wrote:https://twitter.com/NavyLookout/status/1092404732000419840


Great looking ships , almost a Cruiser like presence. Unlike Duncan however I note no Harpoon :-(

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 5673
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby SKB » 03 Mar 2019, 22:26


Image

andrew98
Member
Posts: 154
Joined: 05 May 2015, 22:28
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby andrew98 » 03 Mar 2019, 23:22

Has there been any upgrades/updates to the S1850 radars since their introduction?

RetroSicotte
Site Admin
Posts: 2470
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:10
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby RetroSicotte » 04 Mar 2019, 08:07

andrew98 wrote:Has there been any upgrades/updates to the S1850 radars since their introduction?

Don't believe so, no.

An upgrade to the AESA variant of the same radar wouldn't go amiss though, the Smart-L EWC. Much newer, upgraded variant the Dutch are using now. Or the ELR software update they got too.

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 5673
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby SKB » 11 Apr 2019, 15:33


Image
Image

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 5673
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby SKB » 12 Apr 2019, 12:08



Image
(@RNASYeovilton)


donald_of_tokyo
Senior Member
Posts: 3281
Joined: 06 May 2015, 13:18
Location: Japan

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 21 May 2019, 01:32

Great movie!

In the last section of the movie.
- it is "FIREJET" coming from the left. Likely MQM-178 drone. Designated 100M or 0M --> may be between 0-100 m altitude.
- ASTER missile is tagged "#4190", and its altitude was 4000M @ 1:17, falling down to 3000M, 2000M, 1000M and 100M right before the impact on 1:21. A direct hit (not proximity), seen in the IR vid on 1:29.

Typical trajectory of modern AAW missile, not going strait to the aim. A little bit sad, this time the target was subsonic drones, while French navy got the super-sonic one. :D

Also interesting the "refresh rate" of FIREJET is about 1 per second, while that of ASTER missile is faster. I guess the former is the Sampson radar signal, and the latter is the 2-way data-link info from the ASTER missile.

Great!

Caribbean
Senior Member
Posts: 1639
Joined: 09 Jan 2016, 19:08
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Caribbean » 21 May 2019, 07:59

donald_of_tokyo wrote:Also interesting the "refresh rate" of FIREJET is about 1 per second, while that of ASTER missile is faster. I guess the former is the Sampson radar signal, and the latter is the 2-way data-link info from the ASTER missile.

It could also be that the Sampson is scanning the faster-moving object more frequently/ with more T/R modules. From what little is in the public domain, it makes those decisions itself and can either interleave tasks on the same module or spread a task across multiple modules, depending on the level of detail etc. that is needed.
The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.
Winston Churchill

User avatar
shark bait
Senior Member
Posts: 5832
Joined: 05 May 2015, 21:18
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby shark bait » 21 May 2019, 08:16

Good video. I'd like to know what the acronyms mean...
@LandSharkUK

RetroSicotte
Site Admin
Posts: 2470
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:10
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby RetroSicotte » 21 May 2019, 08:31

Good grief it took the MoD long enough to allow them to test it on such a target. Horizon was doing this 7 years ago.

It's good news, but goodness me, that confirmation that they really didn't test the 45's against a single supersonic target until now is disheartening with regards to how much high end training the UK is willing to actually fund these days.

User avatar
shark bait
Senior Member
Posts: 5832
Joined: 05 May 2015, 21:18
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby shark bait » 21 May 2019, 08:42

Wonder how long until they take on more than a single target at a time?
@LandSharkUK

Lord Jim
Senior Member
Posts: 3393
Joined: 10 Dec 2015, 02:15
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Lord Jim » 21 May 2019, 10:44

I would love to see a T-45 ripple firing Aster missiles to engage multiple targets. It is a shame it is too expensive to do so.

WhiteWhale
Member
Posts: 271
Joined: 19 Oct 2015, 18:29
Location: Somalia

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby WhiteWhale » 22 May 2019, 18:06

shark bait wrote:Wonder how long until they take on more than a single target at a time?


You're presuming that they have enough missiles on board at any given time to engage more than one target...

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 5673
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby SKB » 24 Jun 2019, 14:39

Five of the six Type 45's are currently in Portsmouth.

Image
(Ian Haskell)
HMS Defender (D36) on Portsmouth's North West Jetty (left).
HMS Daring (D32) in 3 Basin (top), She is being prepared for towing to Cammel Laird, Birkenhead for a major engine/power upgrade.
HMS Diamond (D34) in D Lock undergoing maintenance (lower).

Image
(Cllr James Dawson)
HMS Dragon (D35) is undergoing maintenance at 3 Basin's prom jetty.

Image
(Rob Hinton @TugmasterRob)
HMS Dauntless (D33) is undergoing a refit in Portsmouth's 15 Dock, off the south of 3 Basin.

Image
HMS Duncan (D37) is currently deployed in the Mediterranean on Operation Sea Guardian – aimed at combating illegal activities, identifying and mitigating security threats, including terrorism.

Tempest414
Senior Member
Posts: 1375
Joined: 04 Jan 2018, 23:39
Location: France

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Tempest414 » 24 Jun 2019, 18:10

So which one of the T-45 is going to the US with the carrier

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 5673
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby SKB » 24 Jun 2019, 18:21

Tempest414 wrote:So which one of the T-45 is going to the US with the carrier

HMS Dragon is, allegedly. A tweet from 13th April 2019:



Hopefully, HMS Dragon will be ready in time... :?
Image

Tempest414
Senior Member
Posts: 1375
Joined: 04 Jan 2018, 23:39
Location: France

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Tempest414 » 24 Jun 2019, 19:57

many thanks so it looks like she will have had a busy start and finish to the year good to see the T-45's notching up days at sea. So it looks like Duncan , Defender and Dragon carrying out deployments this year

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 5673
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby SKB » 25 Jun 2019, 19:47

Type 45 launches in order. (Because we missed them as this forum didn't exist back then!)

HMS Daring (D32). Launched 1st February 2006 at Scotstoun. Sponsor: The Countess of Wessex.


HMS Dauntless (D33). Launched 23rd January 2007 at Govan. Sponsor: Lady Burnell-Nugent.


HMS Diamond (D34). Launched 27th November 2007 at Govan. Sponsor: Lady Johns.


HMS Dragon (D35). Launched 15th November 2008 at Govan. Sponsor: Mrs Susie Boissier.


HMS Defender (D36). Launched 21st October 2009 (Trafalgar Day) at Govan. Sponsor: Lady Massey.


HMS Duncan (D37). Launched 11th October 2010 at Govan. Sponsor: Mrs Marie Ibbotson.

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 5673
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby SKB » 28 Jun 2019, 12:28

HMS Dragon's maintenance period is over, leaving Portsmouth today at 09:00.

Image

Image
^ HMS Dragon passing HMS St Albans (F83).

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 5673
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby SKB » 01 Jul 2019, 16:36


Image

Tempest414
Senior Member
Posts: 1375
Joined: 04 Jan 2018, 23:39
Location: France

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Tempest414 » 03 Jul 2019, 07:17

So a busy day for the T-45's as HMS Duncan heads into the Black-sea with SNMG-2 and HMS Dragon escorts US navy boomer Ohio up the Clyde

User avatar
SKB
Senior Member
Posts: 5673
Joined: 30 Apr 2015, 18:35
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby SKB » 03 Jul 2019, 12:33

Tempest414 wrote:HMS Dragon escorts US navy boomer Ohio up the Clyde

Image
(@wolfie250)

donald_of_tokyo
Senior Member
Posts: 3281
Joined: 06 May 2015, 13:18
Location: Japan

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 03 Jul 2019, 14:35

Tempest414 wrote:So a busy day for the T-45's as HMS Duncan heads into the Black-sea with SNMG-2 and HMS Dragon escorts US navy boomer Ohio up the Clyde
Uhm, but 5 of them was at port a week ago.
I'm afraid RN escorts sea going days are still low, although clearly improved compared to 2018. We shall not forget average seagoing days of escorts in 2014 was 144 days, while it was ~80 days in 2017-18. Very very inefficient fleet, RN is now.


Return to “Royal Navy”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: gordon44, RichardIC, sidemot and 28 guests