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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 07:45
by Caribbean
shark bait wrote:It's used to counter attack helicopters, is that something that threatens the OPV's?

It's designed to counter targets manoeuvring at up to 9g and travelling at Mach 4 - not many helicopters in that category! That said, I'm not sure that the tracking/ targetting system is ideal for naval operations. There is a naval variant (Seastreak) out there, but I haven't found much detail on it. A lightweight ground-to-air missile would be a useful addition to the Navy's armoury, both for smaller platforms and to counter the increasing use of drones

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 08:16
by Clive F
A quick observation / comment. The B2 rivers are more sophisticated than B1, but have a bigger crew. Is the extra crew worth the extra capacity?

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 08:33
by Tempest414
It looks like one or two companies have put some good work into naval mounts for LMM I have seen it said and seen images of LMM and Starstreak HVM on the same mount if this is right its a lot of weapon for the money ( I have seen £7000 a missile ).

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 08:39
by Tempest414
Clive F wrote:A quick observation / comment. The B2 rivers are more sophisticated than B1, but have a bigger crew. Is the extra crew worth the extra capacity?


I would say not if used in the UK EEZ role but in the low end global patrol role for which they are being lined for the bigger crew is plus

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 08:48
by Tempest414
RichardIC wrote:I may have missed something but when have we seen B1s in the Black Sea?


Sorry you were right it was not the black sea it was HMS Mersey in the Aegean sea

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 10:19
by donald_of_tokyo
Clive F wrote:A quick observation / comment. The B2 rivers are more sophisticated than B1, but have a bigger crew. Is the extra crew worth the extra capacity?
It is 30 in River B1 and 36 in River B2. As it is 20% more, we shall expect 20% more outcome. For EEZ patrol, I agree it does not worth 20%. But for Carrebean tasks, may be worth while.

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 11:04
by Clive F
Only 36? I thought B2 had a crew of 58 is almost double?

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 12:30
by donald_of_tokyo
River B1 crew is 30. With rotation crew included, it becomes ~45.

River B2 crew is 36. With rotation crew included, it becomes ~60.

[EDIT] https://www.forces.net/news/exclusive-b ... ewest-ship
... The ship has been designed and built to enable lean manning - just 34 crew can set to sea out of a crew of 60, meaning rotation and time at home...

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 14:44
by Clive F
Thankyou DS

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 14 Jun 2019, 11:38
by SKB

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 15 Jun 2019, 13:17
by SKB

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 15 Jun 2019, 16:55
by dmereifield

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 22:02
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 10:04
by SKB

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 15:18
by dmereifield
No 30mm present?

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 17:42
by Repulse
I can see the 30mm, just 3 sailors standing in front of it.

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 17:54
by dmereifield
Ah yes, couldn't make it out on the mobile sized screen!

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 13:36
by SKB

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 19:01
by Aethulwulf
Should soon be space for them to start cutting steel on the second T26.

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 26 Jun 2019, 13:36
by SKB

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 27 Jun 2019, 12:31
by SKB

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 27 Jun 2019, 15:57
by Tempest414
So on the save the RN site on tweeter feed it said HMS Forth was used to shadow a Russian corvette on Sunday anymore news on this or anything to back this up

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 27 Jun 2019, 16:38
by SKB
Tempest414 wrote:So on the save the RN site on tweeter feed it said HMS Forth was used to shadow a Russian corvette on Sunday anymore news on this or anything to back this up

How about this?

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 27 Jun 2019, 16:58
by Tempest414
SKB wrote:
Tempest414 wrote:So on the save the RN site on tweeter feed it said HMS Forth was used to shadow a Russian corvette on Sunday anymore news on this or anything to back this up

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She is looking good in that shot good to see her in use

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Posted: 27 Jun 2019, 21:28
by Repulse
SKB, Is it normal for ships to commission at Chatham (referring to HMS Medway)?