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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby Lord Jim » 13 Jan 2019, 12:44

Repulse. We are actually in total agreement which is why I described the Patrol Frigates role as "Understood", meaning it is not a warfighter but a patrol vessel with greater endurance and capability than the current Rivers, making them more appropriate for duties such as you described, but certainly not areas like the Black Sea and so on. Calling them Frigates was more in line with the Governments PR briefings where they try very hard to convince everyone that the UK will still have nineteen warships and so the classification.

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby Repulse » 13 Jan 2019, 16:32

Lord Jim, sorry misunderstood.
"For get this quite clear, every time we have to decide between Europe and the open sea, it is always the open sea we shall choose." - Winston Churchill

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby SKB » 15 Jan 2019, 13:43

Mersey's back.


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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 15 Jan 2019, 14:49

HMS Forth twitter is "looking forward to heading down South later this year! ".

Although no new information, it is confirmed that it is steadily proceeding.

UKDJ is writing a report on this topic (interview by Mr. Jones?). Waiting... :thumbup:

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby PapaGolf » 15 Jan 2019, 22:23

So the faults have all been rectified then? I was expecting a longer delay especially given the hysteria in the media at the time. Anyone seen any reports on the rectifications?

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 16 Jan 2019, 14:26

From Navy lookout. HMS Forth came out of dock.


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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 16 Jan 2019, 14:28

From Navy lookout. 4th ship HMS Tamar, taking shape..
Surprisingly, already in good shape. Might be completed this year, and commission in 2020?


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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 24 Jan 2019, 12:12

HMS Medway, looks like at her pace. Looks good.

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby Lord Jim » 24 Jan 2019, 19:13

I do like how the B2 Rivers look, but they would look even better with a 57mm mounted on the front.

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 24 Jan 2019, 20:16

Lord Jim wrote:I do like how the B2 Rivers look

Detect the similarity: https://www.forces.net/sites/default/fi ... k=CBBVLuR8 ?

They are even serving the same function, as fillers - being the least capable - for the two other types:
"By the early 1980s the RN was struggling to maintain the demands of both focusing on specialising in extremely expensive ASW frigates and carrying out wider lower intensity patrols [with T-21s].

It looked to try and introduce a highly austere design, lightly armed and intended to operate in task groups in the North Atlantic that would be known as the Type 23 Frigate"
- unattributed, on Forces Network

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 27 Jan 2019, 14:59

Beautiful shot, it is. OPV and CV, both are important, but with very different tasks. Showing the wide-range of RN tasks.


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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby SDL » 27 Jan 2019, 15:08

none of the OPVs are going to be part of the carrier group i take it?

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 27 Jan 2019, 15:12

I think so. River B2 has many tasks to do, but none of it will be to work as CVTF.

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby SDL » 27 Jan 2019, 15:15

So a rare meeting... Great shot

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 28 Jan 2019, 13:41

The crew of HMS Forth. I can see 34 of them (excluding the one taking the photo). As River B2 needs 36 crew to steam (*1), I think that is her crew.

*1: sometimes quoted ~60 is the number including the "additional crew" for rotation, to secure ~300 days of sea going days.


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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 14 Feb 2019, 16:15

Its proceeding, steadily. Hull-2 (HMS Medway) and 3 (Trent) , and 4 (TAMAR) and (5 (SPEY) in the tent).






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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 19 Feb 2019, 11:14

HMS Forth. Photon Taken on January 24, 2019, by Nick Wakefield.


Antenna (ra-domes) are increasing.
- Three inmarsat domes (Cobham Sailor): one starboard of the funnel, and the other port of the mast, and a small one on top of the bridge. See https://www.cobham.com/communications-a ... broadband/
- No life rafts are carried yet.

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 22 Feb 2019, 12:39

BAES paying for their mistake. It will include re-activation of River B2.

But, what was the cause? Are there any comments from Union?

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 22 Feb 2019, 15:50

Makes the eyes water "BAES_Maritime has put a £47million loss provision aside for the Batch II OPVs"
- not saying whether I am crying, or just simply amused

This Typhoon/ Meteor stuff is in a totally different galaxy - by its order of magnitude

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 03 Mar 2019, 15:40

HMS Tyne, came back. Now she is ready to deploy?


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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby Repulse » 08 Mar 2019, 21:30

Hopefully back on track.

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby donald_of_tokyo » 11 Mar 2019, 00:28

Fishing News 8th March 2019

HMS FORTH: READY TO JOIN THE ROYAL NAVY FISHERY PROTECTION SQUADRON

... In three weeks’ time, HMS Forth will depart from Portsmouth to commence trials off the south coast, to expand the squadron’s operational envelope while doing some further equipment tests after the initial contract trials, to maximise the utility of Forth. On completion of these trials, HMS Forth is scheduled to go to Scotland for flag officer sea training for several weeks, resulting in the ‘final tick in the box’ to commence full operational duties within the squadron...


https://fishingnews.co.uk/features/hms- ... -squadron/

Some nice photos...
https://fishingnews.co.uk/wp-content/up ... 24x717.jpg
https://fishingnews.co.uk/wp-content/up ... 24x717.jpg
https://fishingnews.co.uk/wp-content/up ... 24x717.jpg

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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Postby Poiuytrewq » 14 Mar 2019, 11:26

HMS Medway at Sea.jpg
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-l ... es-for-sea

Confirmation that the RB2's are going to be forward based or globally deployed and not primarily used for EEZ patrol and fisheries protection.

The Navy will not use them primarily for safeguarding fishing stocks in home waters but ‘forward deploy’ around the world.......Forth is due to replace HMS Clyde in the Falklands. Meanwhile her sisters could find themselves on patrol in the Caribbean, Mediterranean or the Pacific rim operating from Singapore.

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