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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby RichardIC » 25 Sep 2017, 19:38

james k wrote:I wonder how they measure up against the re-constructed RCN Asterix.


RCN Resolve is a multi-purpose AOR so probably a better comparison with the Tide's half-sister, Logistics Support Vessel HNoMS Maud. There's a Powerpoint on Maud in English at:

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Probably easier to Google "HNoMS Maud" than learn Norwegian.

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby 2HeadsBetter » 25 Sep 2017, 20:13

It's the year of the Royal Navy, apparently. Ever growing, as well. Has she heard of the RFA, do you think?


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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby RetroSicotte » 26 Sep 2017, 12:25

Note the Gov is now saying they are 39,000 tonnes? At work so I don't have the link, but it was in one I noticed on someone's twitter last night.

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Postby bobp » 26 Sep 2017, 14:22

RetroSicotte wrote:Note the Gov is now saying they are 39,000 tonnes? At work so I don't have the link, but it was in one I noticed on someone's twitter last night.


The above video says 39,000 tons.

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby xav » 27 Sep 2017, 11:30


SEA Succesfully Links Ship/Air Interface Simulation Capability with Chinook Simulator

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Cohort company SEA is providing modelling and simulation support to the UK MoD Chinook project team as a method of assessing key aircraft handling qualities, prior to sea trials of the Chinook helicopter operating from the new Tide Class Military Afloat Reach and Sustainability (MARS) Tanker ship.

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... lator.html

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Postby ArmChairCivvy » 27 Sep 2017, 12:23

Excellent. And apart from the simulator, I wonder what are the ship-internal arrangement for a flow of pallets to the hangar, and the Chinook then coming in and acting in the delivery-boy mode for VERTREP?

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Postby bobp » 28 Sep 2017, 13:23

ArmChairCivvy wrote: I wonder what are the ship-internal arrangement for a flow of pallets to the hangar
A lift I understand

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 28 Sep 2017, 15:48

Sure. And not of a container size.

But: one pallet; two... at a time?

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby sea_eagle » 02 Oct 2017, 23:16

These new ships appear to be very capable and arriving just in time (if a bit late) to support the carriers. Will they have the new 5 ton RAS capability or is that still to be fitted?
Here is a link to some nice pictures from a recent RFAA Plymouth visit
http://pdb.rfaaplymouth.org/tidespring-visit.html

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Postby shark bait » 03 Oct 2017, 07:52

Good find, some very nice images, including a large hangar, and some nice looking accommodation. Media has been scarce throughout the build so its nice to finally see some good shots.

The new Heavy RAS wont be fitted to these, its developed specifically for the solid support ships. The Tides will only transfer stores by helicopter or crane.
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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby Ron5 » 03 Oct 2017, 17:47

Great pictures, thanks Sea Eagle.

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby bobp » 03 Oct 2017, 22:47

sea_eagle wrote:http://pdb.rfaaplymouth.org/tidespring-visit.html


Excellent pictures gives an idea how big the ships are.

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby Opinion3 » 09 Oct 2017, 23:57

Maybe a stupid question, and sorry if it is, but could a Chinook replenish a T45 / T26? I realise they can land on the deck, but is that always "head first" and does that allow sufficient room to load / unload via the ramp?

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Postby Ron5 » 10 Oct 2017, 05:45

Opinion3 wrote:Maybe a stupid question, and sorry if it is, but could a Chinook replenish a T45 / T26? I realise they can land on the deck, but is that always "head first" and does that allow sufficient room to load / unload via the ramp?


For a Type 26, the answer is yes. The deck is designed large enough for the Chinooks ramp to be used for men & kit.

For a Type 45, I don't know but I think not.

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby shark bait » 10 Oct 2017, 07:46

Perhaps it's a good demonstration for whats to come on the solid support ships, where the Chinook capability will be much more usable.

If a the Tides have been built Chinook capable its safe to say the SSS will be, and lets go one step further, a hangar to support one would be highly desirable.
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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby KyleG » 10 Oct 2017, 18:16

Ron5 wrote:
Opinion3 wrote:Maybe a stupid question, and sorry if it is, but could a Chinook replenish a T45 / T26? I realise they can land on the deck, but is that always "head first" and does that allow sufficient room to load / unload via the ramp?


For a Type 26, the answer is yes. The deck is designed large enough for the Chinooks ramp to be used for men & kit.

For a Type 45, I don't know but I think not.


The Type 45's deck is listed as Chinook capable, but I don't know if it's ever been trialed.

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby marktigger » 15 Nov 2017, 22:44

nice to see pictures of first RAS with Sutherland and wave knight.

pictures nicked from Facebook RFA Ship group
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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby SKB » 15 Nov 2017, 22:53

QHM Portsmouth movements show RFA Tidespring will arrive in HMNB Portsmouth at Victory Jetty at 10:45 Thursday 16th November 2017
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/qhm/portsm ... 16/11/2017

And yes, I was looking for the QE... ;)

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby shark bait » 16 Nov 2017, 07:51

Great news, at least the RFA is growing, and there holds the key to a global carrier group.
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Postby SKB » 16 Nov 2017, 12:46

RFA Tidespring enters Portsmouth Harbour (16th November 2017)

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The Royal Fleet Auxiliary’s new tanker RFA Tidespring has sailed into Portsmouth ahead of her dedication ceremony on 27th November 2017.

The 39,000 tonne tanker will be brought into service with the RFA – the civilian-manned fleet of support vessels which provide fuel, food and stores for Royal Navy warships all over the world.

RFA Tidespring and her three sister ships (Tiderace, Tidesurge & Tideforce) are flexible, state-of-the-art vessels that will provide key support to the Queen Elizabeth aircraft carriers.

They are part of the UK government’s £178million equipment plan to provide the Armed Forces with the kit that it needs to provide effective operational support across the globe.

Head of the RFA Commodore Duncan Lamb said: “Tidespring’s arrival in Portsmouth today is an exciting milestone in the history of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary. She is a tangible demonstration of the success of the MARS Tanker project which is delivering first-class global support for a first-class global navy.”

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Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

Postby bobp » 17 Nov 2017, 13:17

More information here on her arrival plus news about her RAS trials

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... mouth.html


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