cky7 wrote:Still think the reduced to 12 number of CMC missile cells is a stupid choice, same with the never carrying more than 40 warheads isn’t it? Whilst the yanks are going for 16 on theirs this time, they had 24 on the current design. If you’re gonna spend the sort of colossal money an SSBN costs you may as well go all in and have something that is truly terrifying and capable of wiping out the whole of any country - ie MAD! IIRC the US CMC design comes in blocks of 8 so what are the bets having 12 on each boat ends up costing more than 16!
Was a decision typical of that little worm Cameron and the treasonous 2010 defence review, sorry I mean cuts.”Oh aren’t we being modern, PC and not at all the nasty party anymore. What’s more whilst I decimate our armed forces worse than any enemy has in recent times let’s give .75% of GDP that we just took from defence to the third world while they keep breeding at an unsustainable rate and hate our guts still. Gosh I just love being generous with other people’s money!” God I hated him!!
serge750 wrote:Maybe a stupid question but would it be possible at this late stage on design to omit 4 tubes (so just have the 8 tube CMC) to save a bit of money & replace the space with better accomadation for the crew?
Digger22 wrote:As we can't afford every capability these days, demonstrated by recent capability gaps, are we not missing a trick by continuing to have separate SSN and SSBN fleets? Could we not have developed a hybrid SSN with say four Trident missiles on Each SSN and do away with SSBN altogether? 12 of these boats, 48 missiles in total, greater surviveability, more deterrence, more hunter killer capability etc. greater costs in other areas, savings in some. Wouldn't this be better than the current all eggs in one basket approach? Not sure what if any SALT this would impact?
serge750 wrote:I suspect that for a hybrid solution to work say 11 boats with 4 x ICBM tubes only 4 or so would be loaded with Trident and on their deep patrol zones sitting in wait for the MAD signal to come through which we all hope never happens, while the rest would be doing the normal hunter killer recon etc tasks, maybe they could declare the names of the boats with no ICBM loaded as to allay the fear of our Enemy's...
maybe the empty tubes could be used for land attack missiles or drones when no ICBM's are carried, sure I read some ware there was an adapter being worked on?
Lord Jim wrote:But if the design is on CAD the cost of altering it are not going to be immense surely?
shark bait wrote:virginia payload module
shark bait wrote:Is the above the first confirmation Dreadnought is electrically driven? That would be a first on a British sub, removing the last source of noise on a low speed patrol.
shark bait wrote:Digger22 wrote:I think it's a perfectly reasonable
What is the benefit of a Hybrid class?