Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

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Which Anti-Ship Missile Should be Selected for the Type 26?

Lockheed Martin LRASM
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52%
Kongsberg NSM
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Boeing Harpoon Next Gen
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14%
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A new crane is to be built across 14 & 15 docks at Pompey!
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defen ... -1-8738012

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A new crane is to be built across 14 & 15 docks at Pompey!
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defen ... -1-8738012
I believe that there is one in Scotland that's for sale, only used to build a couple of things so is like new :D


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Head contract has been signed for the Australian Hunter class Type 26 frigates: "BAE Systems’ ASC Shipbuilding secures contract for Australian Hunter-class frigates"

https://navaltoday.com/2018/12/14/bae-s ... -frigates/

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Little J wrote:
A new crane is to be built across 14 & 15 docks at Pompey!
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defen ... -1-8738012
I believe that there is one in Scotland that's for sale, only used to build a couple of things so is like new :D
I was told recently that Babcock bid for and won the crane, however they've refused to confirm or deny that.

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matt00773 wrote:Head contract has been signed for the Australian Hunter class Type 26 frigates: "BAE Systems’ ASC Shipbuilding secures contract for Australian Hunter-class frigates"

https://navaltoday.com/2018/12/14/bae-s ... -frigates/
USNI reporting same news of signing contract to start detailed design and engineering work, of interest was statement "The Hunter-class frigate has a displacement of about 9,700 tons full load and is 488-feet long, according to a Royal Australian Navy."

IF, if true twice the size of a Type 23 and represents another large jump in displacement of the Type 26, previously Australian figures for the Hunter were 8,000t FLD and 8,800t EOL, the BAE Systems PR figure quotes 6,900t for Global Combat Ship/Type 26 and all variants will share a common acoustically quiet hull, the 6,900t figure may be correct if light displacement?, but could be interpreted as misleading. May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.

From <https://news.usni.org/2018/12/14/39660#more-39660>

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NickC wrote:
matt00773 wrote:Head contract has been signed for the Australian Hunter class Type 26 frigates: "BAE Systems’ ASC Shipbuilding secures contract for Australian Hunter-class frigates"

https://navaltoday.com/2018/12/14/bae-s ... -frigates/
USNI reporting same news of signing contract to start detailed design and engineering work, of interest was statement "The Hunter-class frigate has a displacement of about 9,700 tons full load and is 488-feet long, according to a Royal Australian Navy."

IF, if true twice the size of a Type 23 and represents another large jump in displacement of the Type 26, previously Australian figures for the Hunter were 8,000t FLD and 8,800t EOL, the BAE Systems PR figure quotes 6,900t for Global Combat Ship/Type 26 and all variants will share a common acoustically quiet hull, the 6,900t figure may be correct if light displacement?, but could be interpreted as misleading. May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.

From <https://news.usni.org/2018/12/14/39660#more-39660>

the official displacement by the RAN has her at 8.800tonnes (full load)

http://www.navy.gov.au/fleet/ships-boat ... future/ffg

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NickC wrote:May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.
Sputnik news at it again.

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Ron5 wrote:
NickC wrote:May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.
Sputnik news at it again.
I thought to help you as you out as don't seem read relevant info have copied the official RN/MOD PR announcement of the £3.7 billion order, its not complicated - £3.7B / 3 equals £1.23B.

"Multi-billion pound deal signed for first three new Type 26 frigates

02/07/2017
The first of the Royal Navy's next-generation frigates will be laid down before the month is out after a £3.7 billion order was placed for three Type 26s.
Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon today announced the contract with BAE Systems to deliver the first batch of global combat ships.
They will be the first three of eight vessels to replace the equivalent number of specialist submarine-hunting Type 23 frigates currently in service.
Shipbuilding yards on the Clyde will be responsible for building and fitting out the trio, with the first of the as-yet-unnamed class entering service in the mid-2020s.
The work will support and sustain 3,400 jobs - half in the shipyards, half in the supply chain providing parts."

From <https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-l ... 6-frigates>

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NickC wrote:
Ron5 wrote:
NickC wrote:May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.
Sputnik news at it again.
I thought to help you as you out as don't seem read relevant info have copied the official RN/MOD PR announcement of the £3.7 billion order, its not complicated - £3.7B / 3 equals £1.23B.

"Multi-billion pound deal signed for first three new Type 26 frigates

02/07/2017
The first of the Royal Navy's next-generation frigates will be laid down before the month is out after a £3.7 billion order was placed for three Type 26s.
Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon today announced the contract with BAE Systems to deliver the first batch of global combat ships.
They will be the first three of eight vessels to replace the equivalent number of specialist submarine-hunting Type 23 frigates currently in service.
Shipbuilding yards on the Clyde will be responsible for building and fitting out the trio, with the first of the as-yet-unnamed class entering service in the mid-2020s.
The work will support and sustain 3,400 jobs - half in the shipyards, half in the supply chain providing parts."

From <https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-l ... 6-frigates>
Child there's other things in that contract apart from building the ships.


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Like what?
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Ron5 wrote:
NickC wrote:
Ron5 wrote:
NickC wrote:May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.
Sputnik news at it again.
I thought to help you as you out as don't seem read relevant info have copied the official RN/MOD PR announcement of the £3.7 billion order, its not complicated - £3.7B / 3 equals £1.23B.

"Multi-billion pound deal signed for first three new Type 26 frigates

02/07/2017
The first of the Royal Navy's next-generation frigates will be laid down before the month is out after a £3.7 billion order was placed for three Type 26s.
Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon today announced the contract with BAE Systems to deliver the first batch of global combat ships.
They will be the first three of eight vessels to replace the equivalent number of specialist submarine-hunting Type 23 frigates currently in service.
Shipbuilding yards on the Clyde will be responsible for building and fitting out the trio, with the first of the as-yet-unnamed class entering service in the mid-2020s.
The work will support and sustain 3,400 jobs - half in the shipyards, half in the supply chain providing parts."

From <https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-l ... 6-frigates>
Child there's other things in that contract apart from building the ships.
LOL another of your insightful infantile comments :crazy:

Of course there are other things in the contract apart from building the ships that's normal with first of class.

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Chill lads, take it to PMs if you're going to insult one another. Not in the thread.

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In time will the t26 grow as heavy as the Australian hunter class 8800 t ?,that's quite large for a frigate class, in fact it will displace nearly 2k more than their new destroyers at about 7000t . crazy world

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Well, lets face it, "Global Combat ship" screams "cruiser" so T26's maybe called "frigates" but they are not (:

Yep- that old cookie again!

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US FFG(X) programme: Naval Sea Systems Command’s FFG(X) program head, Regan Campbell, told an audience at the annual Surface Navy Association Symposium...

"The Navy is expecting that other designs could enter the competition in the detailed design phase, Campbell said. The shadow competitor could be BAE Systems’ Type 26, which has won frigate competitions in the United Kingdom, Canada and Australia, one of the U.K.’s most successful designs in years."

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2019/ ... nto-focus/

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My oh my.

Wouldn't that be something?

Anglo-Frigate lives?

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That would be amazing if the T26 entered and won, surely that would help bring down the price of ours even just a smig eand would add pressure for HMG to build more for our selfs ( hopefuly the original 13 ) :lol:

God just think of the surface fleet the USN would have, 22 12-13000tn cruisers to replace the current ones, 60 odd ABs and 20-25 T26s.
To havd just a fraction of that would be a wet dream for the RN

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Our Frigate requirements are still fluid, but the program definitely seems to be turning toward larger hulls and greater capability. Accompanying this shift, there's even hints/suggestions of a more dramatic fleet re-balance following the acquisition of more capable Frigates.
Jake1992 wrote: God just think of the surface fleet the USN would have, 22 12-13000tn cruisers to replace the current ones, 60 odd ABs and 20-25 T26s.
To havd just a fraction of that would be a wet dream for the RN
There's already 80+ DDGs planned, and the present Small Surface Combatant requirement is 52. If there's a dramatic re-balance to hand off a greater share of DDG work to big frigates (like T26) in order to enable a larger overall combatant fleet and/or a dramatically more capable LSC (cruiser), expect a whole lot more than 20-25 Frigates to be built.

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Jake1992 wrote:To havd just a fraction of that would be a wet dream for the RN
I think the wet dream would be BAE's....

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The question is could Type 26 be built for 800 million dollars in US ship yards. But it is interesting that T26 has been named as a possible late contender

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My reading of that article is that Mr Campbell said that other designs could enter but the specific mention of T26 was not his own comment and instead speculation (whether informed or otherwise) from the author. Hopefully this is realistic but if so the USN project has moved a very long way from what seemed originally to be a cheap and cheerful belated ASW replacement of the FFG-7 OHP class. That said and to state the obvious if even the slightest opportunity is there both BAE and the UK govt should pull out all the stops to maximise a bid's chances. I appreciate that a USN production run of 20+ frigates may not directly reduce the unit cost quoted for an additional RN batch but it certainly won't do any harm.....

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Tempest414 wrote:The question is could Type 26 be built for 800 million dollars in US ship yards. But it is interesting that T26 has been named as a possible late contender
Highly likely since they would be building so many, but would the Americans go for a foreign design over there own?

I really hope they do but...

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