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Which Anti-Ship Missile Should be Selected for the Type 26?

Lockheed Martin LRASM
140
52%
Kongsberg NSM
61
23%
Boeing Harpoon Next Gen
42
16%
MBDA Exocet Blk III
19
7%
None (stick to guided ammo and FASGW from Helicopters)
8
3%
 
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Repulse » 29 Nov 2018, 14:47

Just order two more and call them Liverpool and Exeter and we’ll be done :thumbup:
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Scimitar54 » 29 Nov 2018, 16:46

Will the 7th and 8th be cancelled because the T26 class will not be regarded as CAPITAL SHIPS?

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby NickC » 10 Dec 2018, 12:01

Rohde and Schwarz in 2015 won the contract for the integrated communications systems for the T26 with their R&S NAVICS IP-based switching system and their external VHF/UHF and HF transceivers, M3SR Series 4400 and 4100 radios, the unique RF filter technology will be combined with the their distinctive antenna and mast designs of the T26.

R & S has sub-contracted to STS Defence Gosport the build, fabrication and outfit the 6 integrated communications masts, 2 per ship in five year programme. The masts will support a range of antennas providing line of sight communications across a range of frequency bands, special isolation screens, manufactured from composite materials by Jeremy Roberts Ltd. Lymington, to provide isolation between the different frequency bands. STS last month sub-contracted the mast manufacture structure and assembly to Mainstay Marine Solutions, Pembroke.
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby SKB » 12 Dec 2018, 23:13


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A new crane is to be built across 14 & 15 docks at Pompey!
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defen ... -1-8738012

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Little J » 13 Dec 2018, 05:13

A new crane is to be built across 14 & 15 docks at Pompey!
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defen ... -1-8738012

I believe that there is one in Scotland that's for sale, only used to build a couple of things so is like new :D

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Poiuytrewq » 13 Dec 2018, 11:59


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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby matt00773 » 14 Dec 2018, 09:12

Head contract has been signed for the Australian Hunter class Type 26 frigates: "BAE Systems’ ASC Shipbuilding secures contract for Australian Hunter-class frigates"

https://navaltoday.com/2018/12/14/bae-s ... -frigates/

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby imperialman » 14 Dec 2018, 10:40

Little J wrote:
A new crane is to be built across 14 & 15 docks at Pompey!
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defen ... -1-8738012

I believe that there is one in Scotland that's for sale, only used to build a couple of things so is like new :D


I was told recently that Babcock bid for and won the crane, however they've refused to confirm or deny that.

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby NickC » 15 Dec 2018, 16:43

matt00773 wrote:Head contract has been signed for the Australian Hunter class Type 26 frigates: "BAE Systems’ ASC Shipbuilding secures contract for Australian Hunter-class frigates"

https://navaltoday.com/2018/12/14/bae-s ... -frigates/


USNI reporting same news of signing contract to start detailed design and engineering work, of interest was statement "The Hunter-class frigate has a displacement of about 9,700 tons full load and is 488-feet long, according to a Royal Australian Navy."

IF, if true twice the size of a Type 23 and represents another large jump in displacement of the Type 26, previously Australian figures for the Hunter were 8,000t FLD and 8,800t EOL, the BAE Systems PR figure quotes 6,900t for Global Combat Ship/Type 26 and all variants will share a common acoustically quiet hull, the 6,900t figure may be correct if light displacement?, but could be interpreted as misleading. May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.

From <https://news.usni.org/2018/12/14/39660#more-39660>

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby R686 » 15 Dec 2018, 21:57

NickC wrote:
matt00773 wrote:Head contract has been signed for the Australian Hunter class Type 26 frigates: "BAE Systems’ ASC Shipbuilding secures contract for Australian Hunter-class frigates"

https://navaltoday.com/2018/12/14/bae-s ... -frigates/


USNI reporting same news of signing contract to start detailed design and engineering work, of interest was statement "The Hunter-class frigate has a displacement of about 9,700 tons full load and is 488-feet long, according to a Royal Australian Navy."

IF, if true twice the size of a Type 23 and represents another large jump in displacement of the Type 26, previously Australian figures for the Hunter were 8,000t FLD and 8,800t EOL, the BAE Systems PR figure quotes 6,900t for Global Combat Ship/Type 26 and all variants will share a common acoustically quiet hull, the 6,900t figure may be correct if light displacement?, but could be interpreted as misleading. May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.

From <https://news.usni.org/2018/12/14/39660#more-39660>



the official displacement by the RAN has her at 8.800tonnes (full load)

http://www.navy.gov.au/fleet/ships-boat ... future/ffg

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Ron5 » 15 Dec 2018, 23:59

NickC wrote:May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.


Sputnik news at it again.

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby NickC » 16 Dec 2018, 13:38

Ron5 wrote:
NickC wrote:May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.


Sputnik news at it again.


I thought to help you as you out as don't seem read relevant info have copied the official RN/MOD PR announcement of the £3.7 billion order, its not complicated - £3.7B / 3 equals £1.23B.

"Multi-billion pound deal signed for first three new Type 26 frigates

02/07/2017
The first of the Royal Navy's next-generation frigates will be laid down before the month is out after a £3.7 billion order was placed for three Type 26s.
Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon today announced the contract with BAE Systems to deliver the first batch of global combat ships.
They will be the first three of eight vessels to replace the equivalent number of specialist submarine-hunting Type 23 frigates currently in service.
Shipbuilding yards on the Clyde will be responsible for building and fitting out the trio, with the first of the as-yet-unnamed class entering service in the mid-2020s.
The work will support and sustain 3,400 jobs - half in the shipyards, half in the supply chain providing parts."

From <https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2017/july/02/170702-deal-for-t26-frigates>

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Ron5 » 17 Dec 2018, 01:31

NickC wrote:
Ron5 wrote:
NickC wrote:May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.


Sputnik news at it again.


I thought to help you as you out as don't seem read relevant info have copied the official RN/MOD PR announcement of the £3.7 billion order, its not complicated - £3.7B / 3 equals £1.23B.

"Multi-billion pound deal signed for first three new Type 26 frigates

02/07/2017
The first of the Royal Navy's next-generation frigates will be laid down before the month is out after a £3.7 billion order was placed for three Type 26s.
Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon today announced the contract with BAE Systems to deliver the first batch of global combat ships.
They will be the first three of eight vessels to replace the equivalent number of specialist submarine-hunting Type 23 frigates currently in service.
Shipbuilding yards on the Clyde will be responsible for building and fitting out the trio, with the first of the as-yet-unnamed class entering service in the mid-2020s.
The work will support and sustain 3,400 jobs - half in the shipyards, half in the supply chain providing parts."

From <https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2017/july/02/170702-deal-for-t26-frigates>


Child there's other things in that contract apart from building the ships.

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby shark bait » 17 Dec 2018, 08:53

Like what?
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby NickC » 17 Dec 2018, 11:42

Ron5 wrote:
NickC wrote:
Ron5 wrote:
NickC wrote:May be one many reasons MOD/RN paying £1.23B each for first three ships.


Sputnik news at it again.


I thought to help you as you out as don't seem read relevant info have copied the official RN/MOD PR announcement of the £3.7 billion order, its not complicated - £3.7B / 3 equals £1.23B.

"Multi-billion pound deal signed for first three new Type 26 frigates

02/07/2017
The first of the Royal Navy's next-generation frigates will be laid down before the month is out after a £3.7 billion order was placed for three Type 26s.
Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon today announced the contract with BAE Systems to deliver the first batch of global combat ships.
They will be the first three of eight vessels to replace the equivalent number of specialist submarine-hunting Type 23 frigates currently in service.
Shipbuilding yards on the Clyde will be responsible for building and fitting out the trio, with the first of the as-yet-unnamed class entering service in the mid-2020s.
The work will support and sustain 3,400 jobs - half in the shipyards, half in the supply chain providing parts."

From <https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2017/july/02/170702-deal-for-t26-frigates>


Child there's other things in that contract apart from building the ships.


LOL another of your insightful infantile comments :crazy:

Of course there are other things in the contract apart from building the ships that's normal with first of class.

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby RetroSicotte » 17 Dec 2018, 14:11

Chill lads, take it to PMs if you're going to insult one another. Not in the thread.

Any further snipes at it will be removed and/or warnings given out. Rather tired of this back and forth.

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby inch » 20 Jan 2019, 13:37

In time will the t26 grow as heavy as the Australian hunter class 8800 t ?,that's quite large for a frigate class, in fact it will displace nearly 2k more than their new destroyers at about 7000t . crazy world

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Sunk at Narvik » 23 Jan 2019, 16:02

Well, lets face it, "Global Combat ship" screams "cruiser" so T26's maybe called "frigates" but they are not (:

Yep- that old cookie again!

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Aethulwulf » 28 Jan 2019, 15:59

US FFG(X) programme: Naval Sea Systems Command’s FFG(X) program head, Regan Campbell, told an audience at the annual Surface Navy Association Symposium...

"The Navy is expecting that other designs could enter the competition in the detailed design phase, Campbell said. The shadow competitor could be BAE Systems’ Type 26, which has won frigate competitions in the United Kingdom, Canada and Australia, one of the U.K.’s most successful designs in years."

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2019/01/28/the-navys-new-more-lethal-frigate-is-coming-into-focus/

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby RetroSicotte » 28 Jan 2019, 16:01

My oh my.

Wouldn't that be something?

Anglo-Frigate lives?

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Jake1992 » 28 Jan 2019, 16:20

That would be amazing if the T26 entered and won, surely that would help bring down the price of ours even just a smig eand would add pressure for HMG to build more for our selfs ( hopefuly the original 13 ) :lol:

God just think of the surface fleet the USN would have, 22 12-13000tn cruisers to replace the current ones, 60 odd ABs and 20-25 T26s.
To havd just a fraction of that would be a wet dream for the RN

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Halidon » 28 Jan 2019, 16:46

Our Frigate requirements are still fluid, but the program definitely seems to be turning toward larger hulls and greater capability. Accompanying this shift, there's even hints/suggestions of a more dramatic fleet re-balance following the acquisition of more capable Frigates.
Jake1992 wrote:God just think of the surface fleet the USN would have, 22 12-13000tn cruisers to replace the current ones, 60 odd ABs and 20-25 T26s.
To havd just a fraction of that would be a wet dream for the RN

There's already 80+ DDGs planned, and the present Small Surface Combatant requirement is 52. If there's a dramatic re-balance to hand off a greater share of DDG work to big frigates (like T26) in order to enable a larger overall combatant fleet and/or a dramatically more capable LSC (cruiser), expect a whole lot more than 20-25 Frigates to be built.

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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Postby Poiuytrewq » 28 Jan 2019, 17:12

Jake1992 wrote:To havd just a fraction of that would be a wet dream for the RN
I think the wet dream would be BAE's....


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