Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
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Re: Type 26 Global Combat Ship [News Only]
Article in Defense News last week about US Navy searching for a new frigate...
The U.S. Navy's requirements for a new guided-missile frigate hit the street Monday with a request for information that blew the competition for the new ship design wide open...
...and that could be anything from the two littoral combat ship designs in production today to a foreign design such as the British Royal Navy's Type 26 global combat ship.
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/exc ... quirements
The U.S. Navy's requirements for a new guided-missile frigate hit the street Monday with a request for information that blew the competition for the new ship design wide open...
...and that could be anything from the two littoral combat ship designs in production today to a foreign design such as the British Royal Navy's Type 26 global combat ship.
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/exc ... quirements
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Re: Type 26 Global Combat Ship [News Only]
There was another one where, yes, will need to be able to keep up with the carriers, but often acting as a picket - for shooters located OTH.
- so just enough armed to be able to survive on its own (air threats a lesser priority, exc. those coming straight at you, be it stealthy or supersonic)
- so just enough armed to be able to survive on its own (air threats a lesser priority, exc. those coming straight at you, be it stealthy or supersonic)
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Re: Type 26 Global Combat Ship [News Only]
That hour squinting at Royal Navy ship's badges paid off then.GibMariner wrote:HMS Glasgow it is!
Re: Type 26 Global Combat Ship [News Only]
So they are now Glasgow Class T26 Frigates? Sounds weird right now. I'll get used to it...
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Re: Type 26 Global Combat Ship [News Only]
They're called the City Class, check FSL's twitter.
City Class is a nice lovely solid name. Was hoping for Firefly Class, or others from the awesome list of F-class names; but I am quite content with this direction.
This does mean that HMS Plymouth is entirely feasible and quite likely now.
City Class is a nice lovely solid name. Was hoping for Firefly Class, or others from the awesome list of F-class names; but I am quite content with this direction.
This does mean that HMS Plymouth is entirely feasible and quite likely now.
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
Cities eh? I really hope they don't name the others after new cities like Brighton & Hove, Milton Keynes and Wolverhampton.
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
Very pleased with the news this morning! Presumably the class will also include Belfast, Swansea or Cardiff, and????RetroSicotte wrote:They're called the City Class, check FSL's twitter.
City Class is a nice lovely solid name. Was hoping for Firefly Class, or others from the awesome list of F-class names; but I am quite content with this direction.
This does mean that HMS Plymouth is entirely feasible and quite likely now.
Why do you think Plymouth is likely?
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
Build - Operate (- Discard; perhaps they won't include that location?)dmereifield wrote:Why do you think Plymouth is likely?
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
There's been a lot of local media attention and petitions about getting an HMS Plymouth for a while. And lately the RN seems to be going for impact and national focus with the names. (Bringing back HMS Dreadnought and all)
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
First steel for HMS Glasgow is cut
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(BBC)
The first of eight new Type 26 frigates being built for the Royal Navy has been named HMS Glasgow.
The name was revealed by Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon as he cut the first steel on the ship at BAE System's Govan shipyard.
The new anti-submarine warfare frigates will be known as the City Class.
Earlier this month the Ministry of Defence announced a £3.7bn order for the first three Type 26s, which are due to enter service from the mid-2020s.
The contract for the second batch of five ships is expected to be negotiated "in the early 2020s".
The MoD said the work would "support and sustain" 3,400 jobs - half at BAE's Govan and Scotstoun shipyards - with the rest in the supply chain.
'Historic milestone'
Sir Michael told BAE's workforce at the steel-cutting ceremony: "Today marks a historic milestone for the Royal Navy, Scottish shipbuilding and UK defence more widely.
"HMS Glasgow and the other seven frigates in this new class will protect our powerful new aircraft carriers and nuclear deterrent, helping keep Britain safe across the world.
"The Type 26 is a cutting-edge warship that will maintain our naval power with a truly global reach.
"Designed for a service life of at least 25 years, the Type 26 frigates will form a backbone of the future Royal Navy surface fleet well into the future."
Admiral Sir Philip Jones, First Sea Lord and Chief of the Naval Staff, said: "The Clyde was the birthplace of some of the greatest fighting ships the world has ever known, and so cutting steel there today for the future HMS Glasgow is symbolic of a Royal Navy on the rise once again.
"As an island nation, we are utterly dependent on the sea for our security and prosperity, and the City-class names have been chosen for the Type 26 to provide an enduring link between the Royal Navy and our great centres of commerce and industry.
"The name Glasgow brings with it a string of battle honours, stretching from the Arctic Circle to the South Atlantic.
"As one of the world's most capable anti-submarine frigates, the Type 26 will carry the Royal Navy's tradition of victory far into the future."
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
When you are reliant upon public sources for information, you can't say that there is almost no new technology, because plainly you do not knowabc123 wrote: When you spend 1,4 billion USD for a single half-armed frigate with allmost no new-technology on her, you can't say that there's no money.
Ps judging by this forum you don't know the armaments she will have either
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
I do Hope the Names reflect all parts of the United Kingdom not just England, Scotland and Wales
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
Hopefully HMS Belfast will be included. She has quite a history of Arctic convoys, so would fit perfectly into the general mood there, too.
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Re: City Class Type 26 Frigate (RN) [News Only]
Theres already an HMS Belfast on the River Thames. So I would imagine it'd have to be another city to represent Northern Ireland.
There are only five cities with official City status in Northern Ireland:
Armagh, Belfast, Lisburn, Londonderry, Newry
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There are only five cities with official City status in Northern Ireland:
Armagh, Belfast, Lisburn, Londonderry, Newry
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
She is a museum ship, not a commissioned one like Victory, so don't think it is an issue.
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
Antrim isn't a city its a county and town there are only 5 in Northern ireland
Armagh
Belfast
Lisburn
Londonderry
Newry
Armagh
Belfast
Lisburn
Londonderry
Newry
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) [News Only]
I'm guessing the names will be reasonably distributed geographically, so if they're all T42 names it might go something like:
Glasgow
Sheffield
Coventry
Liverpool or Manchester
Newcastle
Cardiff
Exeter or Southampton
Birmingham
Though I agree that it'd be nice to get a Northern Irish city in there too.
Glasgow
Sheffield
Coventry
Liverpool or Manchester
Newcastle
Cardiff
Exeter or Southampton
Birmingham
Though I agree that it'd be nice to get a Northern Irish city in there too.
Re: City Class Type 26 Frigate (RN) [News Only]
You missed T42's Edinburgh, Gloucester, Nottingham and York.
Oh and S**th*mpt*n does not belong on that list. It only became a city in 1964. Doesn't even have a cathedral.
Oh and S**th*mpt*n does not belong on that list. It only became a city in 1964. Doesn't even have a cathedral.
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Re: City Class Type 26 Frigate (RN) [News Only]
Surely they have to include at least one from each of the home nations, so Belfast must be one...hopefully...
Re: City Class Type 26 Frigate (RN) [News Only]
...not until the DUP demand itdmereifield wrote:Surely they have to include at least one from each of the home nations, so Belfast must be one...hopefully...
...And the separatist trash in Scotland will have already put this down as future flagship of their newly independent navy...
Re: City Class Type 26 Frigate (RN) [News Only]
Ok, I don't know and you do, so pray tell...Enigmatically wrote:When you are reliant upon public sources for information, you can't say that there is almost no new technology, because plainly you do not knowabc123 wrote: When you spend 1,4 billion USD for a single half-armed frigate with allmost no new-technology on her, you can't say that there's no money.
Ps judging by this forum you don't know the armaments she will have either
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What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
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What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Any word on where HMS Glasgow (feels nice writing that!) will be based, Portsmouth or Devonport? Or indeed, any news about the others. I'm assuming it will be 4 at Devonport and 4 at Portsmouth?
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
He won't if he cares about his mortgage.abc123 wrote:Ok, I don't know and you do, so pray tell...Enigmatically wrote:When you are reliant upon public sources for information, you can't say that there is almost no new technology, because plainly you do not knowabc123 wrote: When you spend 1,4 billion USD for a single half-armed frigate with allmost no new-technology on her, you can't say that there's no money.
Ps judging by this forum you don't know the armaments she will have either
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