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HMSML Gleaner (1983-2018) & HMS Magpie (2018) Inshore Survey Vessels (RN)

Postby SKB » 02 Jun 2015, 19:00

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Introduction
HMSML Gleaner (H86) is the smallest commissioned vessel in the Royal Navy with a length of just under 15 metres and a ship's company of just 9 (2 officers, 1 Senior Rating and 6 Junior Ratings). She was based in Devonport, Plymouth. The ship prefix "HMSML" stands for Her Majesty's Survey Motor Launch.

History
She was the sixth ship to bear the name Gleaner and was commissioned on 5 December 1983. With a top speed of 14 knots (26 km/h; 16 mph), Gleaner was designed to conduct inshore surveys along the south coast of England, though she has surveyed all around the coastline of Great Britain and visited various ports in Europe.

As an advanced survey vessel, Gleaner possessed an array of sophisicated technology, including multibeam and sidescan sonar to collect bathymetry and seabed texture data and compile an accurate and detailed picture of the seabed for later analysis. Her survey equipment also includes an Applanix POS MV system for georeferencing and motion compensation, C-NAV GPS, Kongsberg EM3002 Multibeam Echo Sounder and Kongsberg EA400 Singlebeam Echo Sounder.

Gleaner also has the unique distinction of being one of a handful of Royal Navy ships to have visited landlocked Switzerland, having travelled up the Rhine to Basle in 1988. Earlier visits were by HMS Flintham and Dittisham in 1969, and HMS Sabre and Cutlass in 1979.

1. HMSML Gleaner (H86) Commissioned: 1983. Paid Off: 30th January 2018. Decommissioned: 16th February 2018.

Displacement: 22 tonnes
Length: 14.8 m
Beam: 4.7 m
Draught: 1.6 m
Propulsion: 2 × Volvo Penta TAMD 122 P-A diesel engines
Speed: 14 knots (16.1 mph; 25.9 km/h)
Crew Complement: 9 (2 Officers, 1 Senior Rate, 6 Junior Rates)
Notes: She uses multibeam and sidescan sonar to collect accurate data about the texture of the seabed. She is used in the shallowest of inshore waters.

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby GibMariner » 08 Aug 2016, 15:02

Navy ship to survey Jersey's seabed and update charts
A Royal Navy ship is mapping Jersey's seabed to update the charts leading into St Helier's marina.

HMS Gleaner arrived in June and will be here until the middle of September.

The main routes she is surveying are used by the Royal Navy for conducting high speed navigation training.

HMS Gleaner’s work will only cover a small proportion of the entire Jersey territorial sea but that work is being carried out with sophisticated multi-beam equipment and analytical software.

It will be the first time such a thorough and relatively extensive survey has taken place in many years.

The data will lead to updated charts being produced by the UK Hydrographic Office in Taunton, for purchase by the public.


http://www.itv.com/news/channel/2016-08 ... ys-seabed/

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby cpu121 » 09 Apr 2017, 19:48

October 2016 Navy News article about HMS Gleaner

https://issuu.com/navynews/docs/201610/16

Mentions this is her last year in commission with a replacement expected in early 2018. Anyone heard about that?

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby WhitestElephant » 20 Aug 2017, 19:57

I wonder what will replace her?
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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby Caribbean » 20 Aug 2017, 20:23

I would have thought one of the Atlas Elektronik workboats that have just been ordered would be a good contender:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... -announces
The graphic specifically mentions hydrographic survey
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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby Timmymagic » 20 Aug 2017, 20:26

WhitestElephant wrote:I wonder what will replace her?


It was on another thread about the recently announced contract for work boats with Atlas Elektronik. It looks like it will be a Safehaven Marine Wildcat 60.

https://www.safehavenmarine.com/copy-of-wildcat-60


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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 21 Aug 2017, 14:10

Timmymagic wrote:Wildcat 60


The different arms of the armed services liberally use the same names for what ever they happen to have, but within the same branch :(
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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby RetroSicotte » 21 Aug 2017, 15:08

Irish design it looks like?

Not a single British place could provide a small boat?

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby SKB » 21 Aug 2017, 15:19

RetroSicotte wrote:Irish design it looks like?

Speak like Yoda you do. :mrgreen:

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby RetroSicotte » 21 Aug 2017, 16:53

All depends on a certain point of view. ;)

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby Timmymagic » 21 Aug 2017, 17:50

RetroSicotte wrote:Irish design it looks like?

Not a single British place could provide a small boat?


There definitely are, the guys who built the QE crew transfer boats for example.

I think in this case it probably makes sense to purchase a single example of an established design for a very specific, specialist role. Better than asking someone to come up with something new.

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby SKB » 02 Feb 2018, 03:04



The previous (7th) HMS Magpie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Magpie_(U82)

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby shark bait » 02 Feb 2018, 07:39

A "Black Swan-class sloop" :shock: :shock:
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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby RetroSicotte » 02 Feb 2018, 13:14

Never can escape the Black Swan. :D

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Re: HMSML Gleaner (1983-2018) & HMS Magpie (2018) Inshore Survey Vessels (RN)

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Smallest and Largest RN ships together in 2017.

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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby Repulse » 14 Apr 2018, 17:32

Not sure of anyone has seen the recent pictures of HMS Magpie being moved for equipment fitting:

https://whitten.ie/news/hms-magpie-flies-the-nest
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Re: Gleaner Class Inshore Survey Vessel (RN)

Postby Repulse » 20 Apr 2018, 08:22

Great video of HMS Magpie

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Re: Gleaner (1983-2018) & Magpie (2018+) Class Inshore Survey Vessels (RN)

Postby shark bait » 20 Apr 2018, 08:34

Is the the RN's first catamaran?
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Re: HMS Gleaner (1983-2018) & HMS Magpie (2018) Inshore Survey Vessels (RN)

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Thread modified for Gleaner to Magpie switchover.
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(Pic: UKDF) ^ HMS Magpie, H130

Introduction
HMS Magpie is a planned survey ship for the Royal Navy, intended for use on inshore and coastal survey work. Magpie is intended to replace HMS Gleaner and is due to be commissioned in May 2018.

History
In August 2017, the replacement for HMS Gleaner, the Royal Navy's existing inshore survey launch, was announced to be one of a total of 38 multi-role workboats of various sizes being constructed to undertake various duties. The main structure of the vessel was constructed by Safehaven Marine, a boatbuilding company based in Cork.

In February 2018, it was announced that the ship would be named as HMS Magpie. The type selected for the inshore survey vessel was based on Safehaven's Wildcat 60 catamaran design, the largest available at 18m in length, and with a displacement of 37 tonnes. Magpie was built to accommodate a crew of 12 for up to seven days, with the capability of operating in all weathers.

Following completion and initials trials by Safehaven Marine, Magpie was subsequently delivered to Atlas Elektronik UK (AEUK) for installation of its mission equipment. In April 2018, Magpie underwent further trials with its mission equipment installed, before final delivery of the launch to the Royal Navy for commissioning in May 2018.

As Magpie will be considerably larger than the vessel she replaces, the title of smallest commissioned vessel in the Royal Navy, which had belonged to Gleaner, passes to the two Scimitar-class patrol vessels based in Gibraltar.

Name: HMS Magpie
Pennant number: H130
Operator: Royal Navy
Ordered: 18 August 2017
Builder: Atlas Elektronik UK https://www.atlas-elektronik.com/newsro ... agpie.html
Laid down: September 2017
Commissioned: May 2018 (planned)
Homeport: HMNB Devonport
Status: Undergoing sea trials

Displacement: 37 tonnes
Length: 18 m
Beam: 6.2 m
Draught: 1.4 m
Propulsion: 2 × Volvo D16 diesel engines
Speed: 23 knots (26.5 mph; 42.6 km/h)
Complement: 12

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Re: HMS Gleaner (1983-2018) & HMS Magpie (2018) Inshore Survey Vessels (RN)

Postby SKB » 25 Apr 2018, 04:12


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The Royal Navy’s newest vessel HMS Magpie has been in action already undergoing rough weather sea trials in the Irish Sea less than a month after being launched.

HMS Magpie is the newest addition to the RN’s hydrographic squadron, replacing veteran survey launch Gleaner which paid off earlier this year in Plymouth after 35 years’ under the White Ensign in HM Naval Base Devonport.

Lieutenant Commander William Alexander, Magpie’s new commanding officer and Gleaner’s last, said, “Magpie will help lead the way in modernising the Royal Navy’s survey and underwater surveillance capabilities.

“Her primary role will be in maintaining the integrity of coastal waters, ensuring safety of navigation and resilience of key national infrastructure in UK ports. And with an enduring presence around the UK, she will also contribute to national security at sea.”

Cork shipbuilder Safehaven has delivered a replacement, an 18-metre catamaran based on the firm’s Wildcat 60 craft. Magpie is due to be formally handed over to the RN next month and be ceremonially commissioned into the Navy early in the summer. She will then join the rest of the hydrographic squadron in Devonport.


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