Aethulwulf wrote:Some years ago now, BMT published a paper on future ship concepts for repair and maintenance at sea. One of their concepts was the use of a heavy lift float on-float off (Flo-Flo) ship and a 120m × 32m barge. It may be possible to use the same concept for a future Role 3 medical facility.
The Flo-Flo vessels could operate in two modes according to operational tasking:
• Retain facilities onboard, operating as a “conventional” casualty ship.
• Deliver the facilities to a sheltered area or port and then leave.
A 120m × 32m barge would be large enough to host a 70 bed hospital and specialist facilities (inc. x-ray & CT, oxygen systems, labs, clinical waste incinerator, etc.), as well as a large accommodation block for 200+ medical staff and a 2 spot flight deck and hanger.
In addition to the flight deck, the barge could be designed with a steel beach and a loading ramp so that casualties can be delivered by landing craft or by ambulance when docked in port.
A multi-storey barge would be similar in construction to accommodation blocks built for the offshore sector, but designed to allow for the easy transport of casualties around the facilities.
Aethulwulf wrote:• one barge with a Role 3 medical unit
• one barge with cranes and workshops etc. as a Diligence replacement
• one barge with a large flight deck for aviation training
If so, we would probably need two Flo-Flo ships, but they could be contracted under a similar arrangement to the Point ships - allowing one or both to be released for commercial use when not required by MOD.
ArmChairCivvy wrote:Engaging Strategy wrote:under the current circumstances half our eggs are in a decidedly cheap and nasty "basket" (Ocean) and the loss of one of the major amphibious platforms is still going to badly hobble us.
I don't see it that way at all (exc. for the current circumstances soon passing!):
- Ocean was designed to deliver a cdo bn
- both of the Albons were designed to deliver a cdo bn
... that's al of them covered, but let's assume the extended readiness ship is not... ready in time!
The three Bays have 700 in overload; so it is a matter of the Commander to assess the threat and distribute the types of loads
... all of the RM tooth (and a lot of the tail) can go plus a few 16x companies to throw in for good measure
Having said that, for the years (if any, but say, for 3) in-between the Ocean decommissioning and the first CVF being in any (tried) way useful, we will be in a bad place (for this type of capacity).
Casualty receiving ship RFA Argus has returned to sea following several months in refit.
She's been undergoing tests for weeks to ensure she's seaworthy, before getting the go-ahead to return to duty.
So with the green light, Captain Karl Woodfield, sailed the Argus out to sea.
The ship and her company are now at five days' notice to deploy on any operation around the world – just like in 2014, when they were sent to help with the Ebola crisis in Sierra Leone.
It's been a busy few weeks for the mixed crew on board.
There's 140 RFA personnel and 60 from the Royal Navy working alongside each other, while the Maritime Aviation Support Force from RNAS Culdrose are also on board providing aircraft handlers and engineers.
Using the deck are the Green Merlins of the Commando Helicopter Force, the Fleet Air Arm's Mark 8 Lynx and the Flag Officer Sea Training Dauphin.
marktigger wrote:when is Argus being withdrawn? there's a comment on facebook its next year?
Repulse wrote:marktigger wrote:when is Argus being withdrawn? there's a comment on facebook its next year?
Thought it was 2020
Good news! It means, Argus replacement is NOT coupled with PoW. Of course, it does not mean it is safe. But, at least till 2024, RN has "3rd" helicopter platform to be used as a helo supplement, when the "2nd CVF" is in long maintenance and cannot carry-out LPH role.Pymes75 wrote:marktigger wrote:when is Argus being withdrawn? there's a comment on facebook its next year?
Apparently, it's been extended out to 2024:
shark bait wrote:A basic hull for HADR work is also of great value, she would make a good Caribbean patrol
shark bait wrote: Its desirable to do exactly the same thing again
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