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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 10 Jul 2019, 11:46

So, does the early return of QE mean she failed her last week of FOST? And delay Westlant 19 a bit?

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby bobp » 10 Jul 2019, 12:17

Breaking news major disaster according to the British Biased Corporation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-h ... e-48933881

It says the QE returned early due to a catastrophic minor water leak and ends reminding its readers that this is not the first major water leak since our Ladyship was launched.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SDL » 10 Jul 2019, 12:22

Typical BBC screwing up again

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 10 Jul 2019, 13:10

Seriously been wondering a lot in last few months if I ought to renew BBC licence fee in August or not....

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Pseudo » 10 Jul 2019, 13:18

bobp wrote:Breaking news major disaster according to the British Biased Corporation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-h ... e-48933881

It says the QE returned early due to a catastrophic minor water leak and ends reminding its readers that this is not the first major water leak since our Ladyship was launched.

Could you quote the section of the article that refers to the water leak as "catastrophic"? It seems to me that your characterisation of the article says more about your biases than it does the BBC's.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 10 Jul 2019, 13:28

SKB wrote:So, does the early return of QE mean she failed her last week of FOST? And delay Westlant 19 a bit?

I guess that does constitute a failure, although the crew would have got extra training in dealing with a potential flood incident I guess! 8-)

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby G White » 10 Jul 2019, 13:39

Pseudo wrote:
bobp wrote:Breaking news major disaster according to the British Biased Corporation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-h ... e-48933881

It says the QE returned early due to a catastrophic minor water leak and ends reminding its readers that this is not the first major water leak since our Ladyship was launched.

Could you quote the section of the article that refers to the water leak as "catastrophic"? It seems to me that your characterisation of the article says more about your biases than it does the BBC's.


Agree, nothing wrong in that article.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Pseudo » 10 Jul 2019, 13:42

G White wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
bobp wrote:Breaking news major disaster according to the British Biased Corporation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-h ... e-48933881

It says the QE returned early due to a catastrophic minor water leak and ends reminding its readers that this is not the first major water leak since our Ladyship was launched.

Could you quote the section of the article that refers to the water leak as "catastrophic"? It seems to me that your characterisation of the article says more about your biases than it does the BBC's.


Agree, nothing wrong in that article.

Perhaps the OP would have preferred it if the article had called it an impromptu bathing opportunity for hard-working sailors. :lol:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby bobp » 10 Jul 2019, 13:58

Perhaps I should have said sudden and unexpected failure of water system instead of the word Catastrophic. Whatever it was sufficient to end the QE FOST. As for my opinion of the BBC that's my personal bias, which I am sure is shared by others.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 10 Jul 2019, 14:01

I've put a new BBC thread in the Politics section for anyone to rant about it, or praise it. Has a poll too.
BBC Thread: viewtopic.php?f=35&t=992

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SDL » 10 Jul 2019, 15:20



if true.... yikes.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 10 Jul 2019, 15:40

But they did go on to report that 'This issue is also unlikely to prevent the ship from sailing later this year for the Westlant19 deployment when she will carry out further developmental test flying with UK-owned F-35 Jets.'

I guess the following shows the power of high pressure water being released when not expected though... 'The high-pressure burst was apparently enough to buckle a stairwell, bend some bulkheads and split some deck-plates.'

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 10 Jul 2019, 15:48

I would say this incident makes the case for a proper QE sized drydock on the south coast more urgent. What if the hull had been breached and Rosyth, Belfast and Toulon were all unavailable, or out of reach?

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby bobp » 10 Jul 2019, 16:01

Pretty serious then, potentially catastrophic bent bulkheads and stairs, good job the three sailors did not drown.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby bobp » 10 Jul 2019, 16:06

SKB wrote:This makes the case for a proper QE sized drydock on the south coast more urgent, I'd say


Agreed. But hopefully the QE can be repaired alongside.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby clivestonehouse1 » 10 Jul 2019, 16:08

Probably the sacked Captain left his cabin taps running

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Scimitar54 » 10 Jul 2019, 18:28

Well we know that he got into Hot Water, but this would really just be rubbing salt into the wound. :mrgreen:

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby clivestonehouse1 » 10 Jul 2019, 18:33

Scimitar54 wrote:Well we know that he got into Hot Water, but this would really just be rubbing salt into the wound. :mrgreen:


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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Wrekin1410 » 11 Jul 2019, 11:54

PhillyJ wrote:But they did go on to report that 'This issue is also unlikely to prevent the ship from sailing later this year for the Westlant19 deployment when she will carry out further developmental test flying with UK-owned F-35 Jets.'

I guess the following shows the power of high pressure water being released when not expected though... 'The high-pressure burst was apparently enough to buckle a stairwell, bend some bulkheads and split some deck-plates.'


I guess that’ll depend on the type of failure. If it’s a failure at a joint it might have been a simple assembly issue not picked up (or able to be picked up) prior to failure and therefore once checks have been made in the system any remedial work could be simple enough not to cause a delay.

However if it has been a rupture of the pipe itself this could be a fundamental metallurgical issue in a whole batch of pipes and that might be a whole different story. Similarly with a metallurgical failure of a joint.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 11 Jul 2019, 15:17

Well I've heard nowt else from my lad but someone has been spouting stuff on Twitter claiming they were there and 3 sailors nearly drowned etcetc. Regardless of authenticity this is not something I believe should be put on public domain to feed the trolls...She might have to fight with HMS Warrior, they want to take her into dry dock to scrape her bottom, so to speak! 8-)

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 18 Jul 2019, 01:35


(WildPlacePictures) 15th July 2019

Wildcat aboard QE in Portsmouth on Monday 15th July.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby PhillyJ » 18 Jul 2019, 10:34

Went round the harbour yesterday with my lad as he is on leave at the moment and there is a Sea Harrier on HMS QE just beside the ramp! Apparently it's for Family Day which is over this coming weekend, I couldn't get a good shot of it unfortunately. :(

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby SKB » 18 Jul 2019, 15:28

PhillyJ wrote:there is a Sea Harrier on HMS QE just beside the ramp!

Found some photos from last Sunday (14th July). I think I found PhillyJ's Harrier....minus its wings?! An unassembled one, or a replica maybe?

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby serge750 » 18 Jul 2019, 18:12

Looks so tiny ! Wasn't there a plan where QE was initially going to fly harriers/sea harrriers when she was due to be commissioned in 2014 ? would of got loads onboard ! C'mon autumn, looking forward to seeing some great shots of 617 sq on her decks !!

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Postby Lord Jim » 18 Jul 2019, 23:01

It would be interesting to see either Spanish or Italian harriers, if the latter are still around, visit the Queen Elizabeth as she sails to the far east.


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