Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
QEC couldn’t. It’s way too big. Under international treaty, the limit is around 12000t, if I remember correctly. The escorts could, but not the carrier
The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.
Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Did not know that , thanks for the info
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
One of the reasons for bankruptcy of a previous incarnation of Cammell Laird was inserting a block in a cruise ship. CL built the insert block but the owners changed their mind and the ship never turned up to be cut in half.serge750 wrote:Could they not cut a QEC were they wanted to put the block in, then float out the rear section then float in a pre made section ( from portsmouth? as an example ) weld it in place then float in the rear section? heck of Lot of work would be involvedRon5 wrote:You would, in theory, need dock large enough for the carrier to be cut in two, the halves pulled apart to leave enough room for the new center block to be built in situ before pushing them all back together. The dock would also need to have enough infrastructure to support building a new block and a skilled workforce.
We're talking about a dock upwards of 400m in length in an active shipyard. I don't think there is such a location in the UK.
Be better ( maybe cheaper, if no bells n whistles ) of building a smaller 3rd flat top to replace HMS Ocean but interesting idea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Classica
- imperialman
- Donator
- Posts: 132
- Joined: 01 May 2015, 17:16
- Contact:
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
The U.S. Naval Air Traffic Management Systems Program Office completed Precision Approach and Landing System certification on HMS Queen Elizabeth in March, the system is a "US owned asset" apparently.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/pals-ce ... elizabeth/
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/pals-ce ... elizabeth/
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
So does the UK use this system to land on the QE, or is this US only. And who paid to install it, bearing in mind it is US owned?imperialman wrote:The U.S. Naval Air Traffic Management Systems Program Office completed Precision Approach and Landing System certification on HMS Queen Elizabeth in March, the system is a "US owned asset" apparently.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Interesting article on RN site about an award to a team diagnosis and fix for fuel filter fault on Prince of Wales ,but also interesting that in the official web site stating 68k tonnes carrier , easily missed reading it in the article , would link but I'm rubbish at tech ie attaching stuff l, computers ,phones email etc lol ,but well done team and an award well deserved
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Seems there are two parts: one for the USMC owned by the US (JPALS), and the other bought by the UK via FMS (ICLS) for the RN. Collectively they are known as PALS and they're now both qualified for use.bobp wrote:So does the UK use this system to land on the QE, or is this US only. And who paid to install it, bearing in mind it is US owned?imperialman wrote:The U.S. Naval Air Traffic Management Systems Program Office completed Precision Approach and Landing System certification on HMS Queen Elizabeth in March, the system is a "US owned asset" apparently.
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... -elizabeth
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Can someone tell me how many Britains f35 and American f35 will be embarked on CSG 21 ,if someone knows ,or might be a secret yet ? I know last time we both trained think was only 5 British f35b and loads of helicopters and 9 USMC f35b but please correct me if wrong , cheers
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Well PWLS did a fast cruise yesterday (Thursday), before anyone gets their hopes up this seems to be a day where they stay alongside and do exercises and wotnot as if they are at sea.
As it coincided with my lunch, I got to see my nippers head above the parapet when they did the ship under attack scenario.
They also had a Wildcat land on her late afternoon, things are all ramping up for her next trip out.
As it coincided with my lunch, I got to see my nippers head above the parapet when they did the ship under attack scenario.
They also had a Wildcat land on her late afternoon, things are all ramping up for her next trip out.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
As far as I’m aware it has not been publicly confirmed, though most people expect somewhere around 15 jets (with USMC outnumbering RAF aircraft, at least for this deployment).inch wrote:Can someone tell me how many Britains f35 and American f35 will be embarked on CSG 21 ,if someone knows ,or might be a secret yet ? I know last time we both trained think was only 5 British f35b and loads of helicopters and 9 USMC f35b but please correct me if wrong , cheers
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2762
- Joined: 03 Aug 2016, 20:29
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
I'd hazard an uneducated guess at 8+8....
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
With 24+0 in 3 years time, right??dmereifield wrote:I'd hazard an uneducated guess at 8+8....
- The Armchair Soldier
- Site Admin
- Posts: 1755
- Joined: 29 Apr 2015, 08:31
- Contact:
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
HMS Queen Elizabeth will not be fitted with 4 x 30 mm cannons as previously planned:
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
"..for a ha'p'orth of tar?"The Armchair Soldier wrote:HMS Queen Elizabeth will not be fitted with 4 x 30 mm cannons as previously planned:
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!" - Dr. Strangelove (1964)
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
And the "Penny pinchers", have taken over the asylum once again!
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Maybe the lasers are ready to go......
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 4090
- Joined: 15 Dec 2017, 10:25
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
More likely to be the paintball gunsserge750 wrote:Maybe the lasers are ready to go......
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/defence ... gibraltar/
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Must of spent the budget on plumbers!
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 1716
- Joined: 13 Jul 2015, 05:10
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Cannon to be borrowed from HMS Victory firing Grape Shot?
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2762
- Joined: 03 Aug 2016, 20:29
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
You know it makes sense, mangetout, as the French would say...Ron5 wrote:With 24+0 in 3 years time, right??dmereifield wrote:I'd hazard an uneducated guess at 8+8....
Looking forward to 30 in 2030
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
We will still be operating with USMC jets beyond 3 years regardless of how many aircraft we have available. Jointly operating both is mutually beneficial and not impacted directly by the number of UK aircraft available.Ron5 wrote:With 24+0 in 3 years time, right??dmereifield wrote:I'd hazard an uneducated guess at 8+8....
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Or Ceptorsserge750 wrote:Maybe the lasers are ready to go......
Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
I think its a good idea for joint ops to have a fuller deck on the carriers, helps with operating methods, intergration and training, it also leave airframes for the RAF owned jets to play onshore aswell, so i think its a win win as its doubtful we will have lots availiable just for the carriersMax Jones wrote:We will still be operating with USMC jets beyond 3 years regardless of how many aircraft we have available. Jointly operating both is mutually beneficial and not impacted directly by the number of UK aircraft available.Ron5 wrote:With 24+0 in 3 years time, right??dmereifield wrote:I'd hazard an uneducated guess at 8+8....