Was it anything more than a dream to begin with? Or something to keep Ben Wallace in line. I didn't see any plans of what the increased budget was going to be spent on, since the start of the war in Ukraine we have seen very little talk of what we would want and even less direction. Just look at wha...

Who is integrating the western missiles onto the Russian Jets? :wtf: I think it is for the NASAMS system the yanks are sending them but like has been said we have got to have some Rapier batteries about somewhere that we can replace with Land Ceptre at some point. A bit of a weird announcement as A...

We are giving them AMRAAM instead

https://www.forces.net/ukraine/news/uk- ... e-missiles

Good point, it did seem like we were reinventing the wheel with the agreement with Poland when CAMM ER was a thing. From the article it did say. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-and-poland-to-develop-new-missile-together/ it is envisioned to be a medium-to-long range, surface launched missile...

The export of the CAMM-ER was always a bit fuzzy for me, was Pakistan confirmed to be getting CAMM-ER? I remember its being hush hush at the time for some reason.

Are you saying CAMM-ER has been cancelled?

I don't, if the MOD does not have faith in the UK shipbuilding then come out and say it. Nothing will be gained by keeping quite and giving it away to a foreign shipyard at a later point. I assume from this Navantia have a spotless record on delivering ships on budget and on time? If I remember righ...

Wonder how true this is?

Ballsy move by the Ukrainians regardless.

An interesting tidbit from the announcement of the signing of new agreements enhancing UK-Polish defence relations. What is the new CAMM variant? A combined UK/Polish buy of CAMM-ER or is it a CAMM equivalent of Aster 30, a CAMM on an even bigger booster? Seems like a pretty important announcement....

Francis Tusa has a whole tread on the E-7 but the below is a bit unsettling.

A bit less welding tents on here, not sure she will be lowered into the water any time soon.

If only we were building a class of ships with world beating AWS capability that we could build more of I got nothing

I find it odd that if they are wishing to increase the number of mlrs systems by such an amount they would choice this route. I think it’s right that they need to expand this area but would of thought they should of looked at getting the launcher system on a man truck instead or as potentially a bo...

https://www.army-technology.com/analysis/uk-seeking-to-double-m270-mlrs-fleet/ To this end, a range of sources are being sought to potentially acquire secondhand M270 platforms, including those acting as gate guards, in museums, or in service with foreign nations, I admire the effort we will be goin...

If this the first increase we have seen in something as a result of Ukraine or was this on the cards for a while?

The Yanks arnt messing about now, I guess that the Ukrainian will to fight is well beyond doubt it makes it easier to supply them weapons knowing they wont be given away to the other side. https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1572085839370539010?cxt=HHwWhMDSwbvvldErAAAA Removing their subs from Seva...

Makes sense, do see the point of having the barge there till December.

I asked the same question, see response below. Current thinking says moving them about on Self-Propelled Modular Transporters SPMTs and then lowering them into the water on boat lifts or submersible barges is preferable saving on the maintenance and logistic issues of maintaining and working in a do...

Have we heard anything solid about the effectiveness of the harm missiles in Ukraine?

The end results of my thought was if very effective I was wondering if a certain national would look to reintroduction the weapon.

Rest in Peace

Holy shit we might be making progress here. Keep it up Bob

Hey LM try integrating our weaponry in less than 11 years and maybe you will have a leg to stand on.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/defe ... es-systems

From April 2017 and they are stating a 2028 before its done.

So is he going to double our fleet, invest in large numbers of tomahawk kits and heavily invest in decommissioning our old fleet tied up in docks across the UK. (I dont think)

While I dont think anyone on here would be sad about a 3rd ship, the time for building a 3rd one has come and gone, its not just the costs, its all those ships yards lining up to be able to build the ships again. Why don't we have a Bedford array on the QE surely its going to need one at some point?...