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by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 16:31
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184109
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

…..don’t be expecting European nato to be providing any forces to help them diplomatically or otherwise anywhere else. That’s the conundrum. Pull out of Europe and the loss of influence may never be fully recovered even by a subsequent administration. Don’t pull out of Europe and not enough mass ca...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 16:22
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: New Medium Helicopter [NMH] - (RAF & AAC)
Replies: 479
Views: 49466
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Re: New Medium Helicopter [NMH] - (RAF & AAC)

HMG must be heading for a world record in procrastination for the NMH program. Regardless of the press releases the translation is something along the lines of….”due to inflation and the fact that we want to add pre election tax cutting giveaways to next months budget we have decided to further dela...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 16:10
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184109
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

SW1 wrote: 27 Feb 2024, 16:01 What rest are you referring to?
All US military assets in Europe.

If Biden can pull out of Afghanistan, Trump can most definitely, at least partially, pull out of Europe.

Euro NATO must start hedging now.
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 16:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8470
Views: 2143200
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

Discussion on the missile fit out is there. George knows something which we do not…. Hopefully. Multiple sources are now suggesting that 32x Strike cells will be fitted. Time will tell. If 32x Strike cells are genuinely to be fitted it’s time that 16x Tactical cells also go into B position. Fitting...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 12:57
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184109
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

The US has been asking European allies to spend what nato declares as needed for collective defence ie 2% of gdp. We do slightly more than that others much worse. We have massively subsidised the US both politically and militarily in its adventures these past 20 years so I’ll take no lectures from ...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 09:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8470
Views: 2143200
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

Ron5 wrote: 26 Feb 2024, 20:21 That's not going to be in the water anytime soon. So 3 months late and counting.

PS looks like its Bob's day to work at Govan :)
It looks like June/July at the earliest.
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 08:48
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184109
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

…..already reasonable large budget. It is true that the U.K. has maintained a larger budget than other Euro countries over a sustained period but all of European defence has been massively subsidised by the US for decades. IMO, regardless of who becomes the 47th President the US will start to imple...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 06:57
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184109
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

Surprise Surprise. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/02/26/mod-to-be-denied-funding-boost-in-budget/ . MoD to be denied funding boost in Budget News comes despite rising geopolitical tensions and senior military figures warning about state of Armed Forces. Grant Shapps, the Defence Secretary...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 06:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058262
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

tomuk wrote: 26 Feb 2024, 18:08 But being able to load ARCIMS isn't the justification for T32 or any other class of five frigates.
So what is the justification for the T32 class?
by Poiuytrewq
26 Feb 2024, 16:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058262
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

donald_of_tokyo wrote: 26 Feb 2024, 15:28 Not bad.
Yes but not great either.

Your reasoning is solid but RN has been messing around with these half fixes with suboptimal outcomes for years.

It’s difficult to reach any other conclusion apart from the thinking isn’t entirely joined up.
by Poiuytrewq
26 Feb 2024, 16:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058262
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Surely for a platform agnostic solution it would need to be based on the dimensions of a Pacific RHIB which all vessels can handle both RN and other navies. That is the simplest solution but RN have chosen not to do it and therefore all kinds of logistical contortions will be enviable downstream. J...
by Poiuytrewq
26 Feb 2024, 09:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058262
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

All depend on what to be tasked. River OPV can handle ARCIMS MCM USV, 6t weight, with 3t cargo. But, of course, not good at. Just it. T26 can also handle ARCIMS MCM USV as well. I understand its mission bay is actually designed so…….T31? No idea. It is NOT designed to carry ARCIMS system. Of course...
by Poiuytrewq
25 Feb 2024, 11:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058262
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Tempest414 wrote: 25 Feb 2024, 10:59 What deficiencies are you talking about
Simply the ability to launch and recover craft large enough to future proof MCM and ASW.
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by Poiuytrewq
25 Feb 2024, 10:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058262
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

T26 shall carry two ARCIMS 11m USV…. Hence the reason for 4x boats houses on the original T31 design. Now that the T31 is to be quite substantially upgraded with Mk41 it’s becoming a higher value target especially if all VLS cells are filled with more than fresh air, what’s the plan for T31? Ignore...
by Poiuytrewq
25 Feb 2024, 09:32
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184109
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

No great surprise unfortunately, the writing has been on the wall for several years. I'm not sure if it's started to bottom out yet. The government seem quite comfortable with what's happening. That comfort is being funded by American taxpayers. How long will the US public continue to agree to fund...
by Poiuytrewq
24 Feb 2024, 21:47
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184109
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

Amazing how fast this is starting to unravel now. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/24/army-risk-becoming-static-land-force-chief-tells-generals/ . Army at risk of becoming ‘static land force’, chief tells generals…..In leaked letter, Gen Sir Patrick Sanders suggests ability to mount overseas...
by Poiuytrewq
24 Feb 2024, 16:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058262
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Are they just bigger torpedoes with a fancy name? If they are sensors how do we currently deal with underwater sensor systems? I am not disagreeing with any of that, simply that the technology is changing, the threat level is rising and the MoD is dithering with the future of MCM. There is no clear...
by Poiuytrewq
24 Feb 2024, 11:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058262
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I would say a buy of say 6 to 8 Sea Lancer could be a good thing they could be deployed across the RB1 , RB2 & T-31 classes Having all 5 T-31's capable of deploying SL would be useful Even a RB1 pulling a Sea Lancer in the the North Sea or Baltic would give Russian Sub commanders another thing ...
by Poiuytrewq
22 Feb 2024, 15:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058262
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

SW1 wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 15:25
wargame_insomniac wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 14:38 3 weeks in hospital,
I hope your on the mend and back to more regular contributions going fwd
Seconded.

I hope you are feeling tip-top very soon.
by Poiuytrewq
22 Feb 2024, 15:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058262
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I think the solution is somewhere half way, £1.5B could be found… 1. Turn T31 into full GP frigates by adding a (relatively cheap) bow sonar, 8xNSM and 32xMK-41. If half of these are filled with CAMM/ER/MR and half with FC/ASW or Tomahawk, and a containerized VDS is added as needed, they would beco...