The simple fact is we can not have less than 8 T26 with TASS as this is very very bottom line to escort the carriers and protect CADS

stretched OPV/Covert or a foreign design Agree on the second part, I see very little benefit building a foreign design, even a variant of it, because the UK will never be the cheapest place to build and the RN variant will be for the RN so even then build support services etc would have very limite...

From T26 thread... For me the lay out of the front it quiet flexible allowing space for up to 48 mk41s or other VLS or canister systems. I’d also like to keep the bridge and superstructure lay out pretty much the same on all to reduce redesign and help it commonality for the crews. With regards to ...

Lord Jim wrote:Careful now. This is for News only not discussing what may or may not happen to the T-26 in future.

I was starting to think we should move it lol

I did say everything rear of the superstructure would need to be redesigned for the shorter version but a family of 3 that covers all areas from light frigate to destroyer based of a parent design could be a big boots for British export design. Why you need to re-use the forward section? It may dis...

...They should be looking at designing a family of 3 vessels based on the design that would filling the roles from light frigate to AAW destroyer. At least, the short version is not practical. Hull is not an empty box. It is filled with power-train, tanks, shafts, accommodations, compactly arranged...

Agreed, the cost of “short” batch runs using new designs rather than evolving an existing one. I know there is an argument to have new designs to keep our design teams busy / trained, but my view is over the next 25 years we should focus on evolving the T26 and River designs and reducing the unit c...

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Jake1992 wrote:average cost once all eight are ordered will be £1bn each and the per unit cost for any follow ons is expected to be around £700-£800m each

Sounds like the T-45 figures... and no follow-ons were ordered

Pretty much Yh, it’s just more HMG tightness and short sightedness

Apologies if this has been mentioned before. Saw this tweet from a few days ago. The image looks different to the previous ones i’ve seen. most notably the Phalanx forward of the bridge. Can’t see the other? maybe a re design? cost saving? It also says they are now 1.2b each.. *edit ive just realis...

He said that but he also said that Canada was considering the T31 on top of the T26 order, it can’t be both either their considering the T31 or were cancelling it No he didn't. There is no mention in the article of Canada considering T31. Anyway, what we have here is a highly respected and well con...

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That article also seems to suggest there is "speculation" around possibly cancelling the T31 in favour of my Type 26s. First I've ever heard of that suggestion. Is this something others have come across? Given the accuracy of the article however I'm not reading that much into it. That stu...

pretty poorly researched article. for one, it states the rn only has 16 mk41 silo tubes, not 24, and states the australian one has 48, when it has 32. similarly, where did that "two versions" thing for the canadian one come from? that's new to me. Very poor it even refers to the FTI as th...

Donald your use of the upper case suggests you seem very certain on this , you have some insider knowledge perhaps ? If next gen Harpoon is selected as the interim SSM why would we not - we transferred the mountings from the Batch 3 T22's across to T45 , so why not T23 to T31 ? Or at the very least...

By the way, canisters from T23 will NOT be used in T31e. Second Sea Load clearly states (in the answer to Engaging Strategy-san's question on twitter) that equipments transferred from T23 to T31 will be very limited. I also thin even Mk.8 4.5inch gun cannot be transferred. The two 30 mm canons, &qu...

SeaRAM is completely a different class of weapons compared to Phalanx CIWS. It is somewhere in-between CAMM and CIWS. I'm afraid buying SeaRAM will mean completely omitting CAMM from T31e. So, "5 T31 with only SeaRAM and no CAMM", or "5 T31 with CAMM and CIWS FTR", will be the a...

Won’t there be enough canister ( 13 sets ) from the T23s to alllow each T31 and the remaining 2 T45s to have there own ? The phalanx pool I surely going need to be increased though as were going from only 3 on ocean to 3 for each QE but the big increase in from none needed for the T23s to all of a ...

Won’t there be enough canister ( 13 sets ) from the T23s to alllow each T31 and the remaining 2 T45s to have there own ? The phalanx pool I surely going need to be increased though as were going from only 3 on ocean to 3 for each QE but the big increase in from none needed for the T23s to all of a s...

It’s also similar with other measurements of the class with seeing both 280m and 284m for length and 70m and 73m for beam. Now I know these are only small difference and I might be just a niggle of mine but it’d be nice to know the true measurements. :lol: I'll get my Son to source a tape measure a...

I thought it was interesting to see that QEC is about 2.5 times the displacement of Izumo, but able to operate 3.6 times the number of F35. This always has me question what is the real tonnage of the QEs I keep see mainly 2 weights 65,000t and 70,600t Iv even seem that PoW is 72,000t but a lot less...

I thought it was interesting to see that QEC is about 2.5 times the displacement of Izumo, but able to operate 3.6 times the number of F35. This always has me question what is the real tonnage of the QEs I keep see mainly 2 weights 65,000t and 70,600t Iv even seem that PoW is 72,000t but a lot less...

We will have C1 , C2 and C3 Would agree with this and your classification of C1. Where I disagree, is that the C2 are not “fighting” ships, they are able to defend themselves either as Singletons or as part of a task force - e.g. B3 Rivers (lower end Leanders) and what the B2s could be with some up...

be applied to a next gem MBT. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WCIc6CYHrPU&list=WL&index=7&t=0s Now ignore that it’s an excavator and look more at how the track system is set up, could something like this be the next step to allow a smoother transit over rough terrain and even over areas t...

or future proofing its options by going flexible, by going big? If they pick the A140 :) The Arrowhead140 is big but how flexible? Compared to Leander we haven't seen a lot of detail but the four boat bay's seem pretty cramped and there is no sign of a deck crane like Leander. The storage area unde...

Iv been thinking recently after the C2 upgrade project is well under way we’ll need to start the process of designing the next gen MBT, could this be our chance to develop the next big change in MBT design. I say this as recently Iv come across concept designs of quad track excavator and thinking if...