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- 10 Apr 2024, 21:21
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5715
- Views: 1500991
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Well they have but that is also for a submarine fleet renewal and that is expensive and a new air defence system of the patriot variety which isn’t cheap either. That’s a fair point also - just think this is for the BAE to lose and by having another five+ T26s in the North Atlantic is a game changer.
- 10 Apr 2024, 21:20
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5715
- Views: 1500991
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
It’s a MINIMUM of 5 Frigates. Ok, but you don’t write that unless the discussion starts with can five ships meet the requirement. I am not arguing just stating if it is 5x or more T26, when could BAE hope to deliver them and not impact the RN schedule? Conversely, if it was 5x or more ASW optimised...
- 10 Apr 2024, 20:43
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5715
- Views: 1500991
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Ok, but you don’t write that unless the discussion starts with can five ships meet the requirement.
- 10 Apr 2024, 20:25
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5715
- Views: 1500991
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Even with the substantial hike in defence spending, is the Royal Norwegian Navy realistically going to be able to afford 5 x T26? It seems to me that it might be worth them considering either a 2 + 3 or a 3 + 2 mix with T31. Alternatively, 5 x FREMM or similar. 5 FDI or joining the new danish navy ...
- 10 Apr 2024, 11:14
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
- Replies: 570
- Views: 151146
Re: Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
I have a feeling that the T32 and MRSS requirements and programs are about to get blurred.
- 09 Apr 2024, 20:34
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
- Replies: 112
- Views: 15353
Re: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
So British ships, even if developed in partnerships, could be significantly different, so Dutch ones could have flight deck while British ones might not. Apologies, spotted the same and posted on the amphibious post. However, I didn’t see the same conclusion, only that the RN needs them to operate ...
- 09 Apr 2024, 20:16
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
It is and what’s more a CMS isn’t needed to operate it - the Amazonas class does not have one. But people will argue why waste a few £10’s mns whilst arguing we need to waste £100’s mns on light frigates.
- 09 Apr 2024, 20:04
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6182
- Views: 1876950
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
This armament is therefore mainly intended as a last resort. This means that the ships are better armed than the patrol ships, but there is not much difference. The ATSs are intended for operations in the highest spectrum of violence, such as an amphibious landing. But they must be protected by fri...
- 09 Apr 2024, 13:33
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: AUKUS (in general)
- Replies: 20
- Views: 1372
Re: AUKUS (in general)
Has to be CAUKUS - just waiting for NZ to join so it can be CAUKNZUS
- 09 Apr 2024, 08:10
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
- 08 Apr 2024, 20:04
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Absolutely - it can also easily add additional automated guns port and starboard also. A 40/57mm gun and two dual feed 30mms would future proof the ships for another decade with minimal cost.
- 07 Apr 2024, 20:15
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Given the reduction in platforms, I would argue a UK based OPV class that can act as a USV/UUV mothership is not a low priority luxury it’s essential. For what purpose? To do what the B1 Rivers to right now - EEZ patrolling, anti terrorism, anti drug trafficking and supporting littoral operations. ...
- 07 Apr 2024, 12:58
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Given the reduction in platforms, I would argue a UK based OPV class that can act as a USV/UUV mothership is not a low priority luxury it’s essential. For what purpose? To do what the B1 Rivers to right now - EEZ patrolling, anti terrorism, anti drug trafficking and supporting littoral operations.
- 07 Apr 2024, 10:33
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
I know this is all fantasy and unlikely in the current climate but forgive me this indulgence. No problem with a fantasy fleet, we all have them. My comment is let’s not replace ships that are doing the job rather well already with more expensive ones just because it feels a good idea. It needs to ...
- 07 Apr 2024, 08:34
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Given the reduction in platforms, I would argue a UK based OPV class that can act as a USV/UUV mothership is not a low priority luxury it’s essential.
- 07 Apr 2024, 07:38
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Whilst replacing the B1s with a B2 design would be nice it’s absolutely not a priority - it would however not cost £127mn each - I suggest doing some research into what drove that number. For the UK, what is really needed is a River 1+ type ship, the “+” being increased ability to launch and operate...
- 06 Apr 2024, 20:41
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
At the risk of being pedantic 'too much and not enough ' seems to be a judgement about perceived value for money rather than compromise. I'm not clear how they're 'compromised'? In my opinion they are too much (over spec’d) for EEZ patrol and not enough for global patrol as there is too much they c...
- 06 Apr 2024, 19:40
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
It’s good that reality is proving the opposite.Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑06 Apr 2024, 18:55 My opinion hasn’t changed on this.
Retire the 3x RB2’s back to the U.K. EEZ in 2028 and retain the other 2 in the Falklands and Gibraltar.
They are a compromised platform for global patrol and always will be unfortunately.
- 06 Apr 2024, 18:51
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6182
- Views: 1876950
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
"Think small" option (if the budget do not rise sharply and man-power issue is just kept as is, (not getting worse, but not better either) It will need to be “think smaller” if nothing changes. It’s just more managed decline. Much more proactive to illustrate what 2.5% or 3% could provide...
- 06 Apr 2024, 18:46
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
A 40mm or 57mm would definitely be my preference, but AFAIK it has a decent radar for its class and maybe a counter UAV with LMM or even a shoulder fired Starstreak would do the job.
- 06 Apr 2024, 18:10
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6182
- Views: 1876950
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
"Think small" option (if the budget do not rise sharply and man-power issue is just kept as is, (not getting worse, but not better either) It will need to be “think smaller” if nothing changes. The RN doesn’t have the crew to man 19 escorts for a start, even with some in refit - 17 max. T...
- 06 Apr 2024, 16:38
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9756958
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
I’ve also read that the Wildcats cannot carry dipping sonar and torpedoes at the same time due to weight limitations. https://youtu.be/evfy2-0FpmE?si=GZ2DerbC7ZtxWkJd https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2017/february-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-techno...
- 06 Apr 2024, 14:00
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9756958
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
And you can have the exactly same dipping sonar and processing system that is on merlin on wildcat now. The South Koreans bought it. Thales sell it as compact flash basically they used new materials, replaced hydraulics with electrics to reduce the weight and shrink. And a much shorter cable so no,...
- 06 Apr 2024, 13:57
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
https://www.twitter.com/hms_spey/status/1776030294887497983?s=46&t=uxMT95H5Nr9jAEmCklKdgA Nice video. I can understand those who post on improving the lethality and sensors of the B2, but thankfully the debate about turning them into some sort of 21st century Panzerschiff has died down of late....
- 06 Apr 2024, 12:25
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1566307