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by mr.fred
03 Oct 2020, 20:13
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

- difficult grammar there, but I guess anything new would be over that price (and by implication, this 'thingy' will be cheap at under that price, a piece) That’s the gist* of it. Assuming a programme cost divided by by the number of vehicles procured. Another benchmark is the 6-- Warriors to be re...
by mr.fred
03 Oct 2020, 15:49
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

The Anyone but BAE era was that period post-Astute, post-Nimrod post-TOBA where BAE were toxic, partly due to their own pig-headed arrogance, and the MOD were determined to teach them a lesson. Unfortunately in the process of doing so they bought a 5 billion GBP powerpoint presentation (Ajax) and s...
by mr.fred
02 Oct 2020, 13:10
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

These are run of the mill medium weight vehicles. There are a dozen credible suppliers worldwide. We're not developing nukes, AI or a 6th Gen combat aircraft. Yet for some reason they all take a decade or so to develop and cost £10m That said I’m quite interested in the Hanwha IFV. That seems to ha...
by mr.fred
01 Oct 2020, 18:13
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 2432
Views: 526609
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Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Of those submissions, I’d recommend 8, 11, and 13 as the involved company perspectives 3, 5 and 6 are interesting as context, but there’s not much specifics, although 3 is a nice historical view of “how we got here” 7 is interesting as a point of view from someone involved reporting as a private ind...
by mr.fred
01 Oct 2020, 10:27
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

My objection to Warrior is not cost, it's that it won't work. Putting a new turret on a 40 year old hard worked vehicle is an engineering nonsense. Development started in 2011, if it were going to work we'd know by now Surely the reverse would also be true. If it wasn’t going to work then surely we...
by mr.fred
30 Sep 2020, 23:20
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

True indeed, what I was trying to get at, is the Warrior upgrade program is costing far more than just 800 million, and does not cover any hidden costs found in manufacture. I don’t think that changes my point at all. If you are comparing what you can get from here then that £430m doesn’t count. At...
by mr.fred
30 Sep 2020, 22:12
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 4067
Views: 951032
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Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Roders96 wrote:The F35 had a good start but they've tempest is going to cut its budget, the writing is on the wall.
Could you rewrite that? I don't understand what you are trying to say.
by mr.fred
30 Sep 2020, 22:09
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

I think the point is that if we are looking at where to go from here, the £430m is unrecoverable and irrelevant in a comparison.

If you're looking at "what should we have done?" from some years back, then it might be pertinent.
by mr.fred
30 Sep 2020, 16:51
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

How many dismounts could a turreted ajax carry if you stripped out the extra recce equipment? Not really relevant when the rear door looks like this: https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ajax-british-army-recon-tank.jpg https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6AO_n6z0FAo/WGTdL2XESNI/AAA...
by mr.fred
30 Sep 2020, 12:18
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

SD67 wrote:It is not half the price if you work out your costs correctly, which is cost per unit of capability delivered, not cost per platform.
Boxer will require upgrade/refresh at the 20 year point, if not sooner, so I don’t think that you are working out your costs correctly either.
by mr.fred
27 Sep 2020, 17:18
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

I think the current Gross Vehicle Weight is mid-40t range for the Band Tracks, with Soucy working on higher GVWs, so Ajax ought to be possible.
by mr.fred
27 Sep 2020, 15:27
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

you could look at band tracks for Warrior and gain several tonnes capacity Magical powers for band tracks? :D A tonne and a half or so. http://gvsets.ndia-mich.org/documents/PM/2018/Composite%20Rubber%20Track%20Trial%20Results%20for%20Warrior%20IFV.pdf Which is just the direct mass saving. It also ...
by mr.fred
27 Sep 2020, 11:45
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

So with funding a serious issue the Boxer has a lot going for it, whereas the WCSP really only has the fact it uses track. Or, to look at it another way, WCSP has track, lower silhouette and doesn’t require as much funding. If you have funding spare, you could look at band tracks for Warrior and ga...
by mr.fred
25 Sep 2020, 19:58
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 2323
Views: 1032102
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Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

ArmChairCivvy wrote:Don't know who that famous man is
Commanding Officer, Armoured Trials and Development Unit, Bovington, according to his twitter bio.
by mr.fred
25 Sep 2020, 19:55
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 1041
Views: 318618
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Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

ArmChairCivvy wrote:
given the liquidated damages it suffered on the Terrier programme, BAE Systems was reluctant to
Has anyone ever sued... :?:
In fairness I think that was raised looking the other way.
by mr.fred
25 Sep 2020, 19:42
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 2432
Views: 526609
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Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Julian Nettlefold, the editor of Battlespace magazine, has gone on the record with some of the problems with Ajax and Warrior. I He’s very forthright with his statements. I wonder how he knows these things. It’s certainly the first I’ve heard about the Pizzaro and Ulan being rejected by Spain and A...
by mr.fred
24 Sep 2020, 13:19
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 2323
Views: 1032102
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Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Why would you want to maintain the MBT capability when you also want to cancel the IFVs?
by mr.fred
23 Sep 2020, 22:15
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 2432
Views: 526609
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Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

I think I should post this in response to the copied tweet regarding where the two competitors were in terms of maturity. Technology Readiness Levels (TRLs) are a technology management tool that provides a measurement to assess the maturity of evolving technology. The Ministry of Defence defines the...
by mr.fred
23 Sep 2020, 17:03
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 2432
Views: 526609
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Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

You really should read the history of the program rather than airing out uninformed opinions. I'm quite familiar. I've been following it for a while. Perhaps you could direct me to specifics reasons as to why "Anyone but BAE" might exist? And yet you didn't know the GD bid was based on mo...
by mr.fred
22 Sep 2020, 21:36
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 2432
Views: 526609
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Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Ron5 wrote:You really should read the history of the program rather than airing out uninformed opinions.
I'm quite familiar. I've been following it for a while.

Perhaps you could direct me to specifics reasons as to why "Anyone but BAE" might exist?
by mr.fred
22 Sep 2020, 21:29
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 2432
Views: 526609
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Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

1. GD/LM won the contract based on modifying the existing Warrior turret. Never happened. That can't be true of the Ajax contract that involved GD, because there wouldn't be enough Warrior turrets spare. 2. What "legal action" ? What on earth thinks that stands a chance in the UK?? Who ha...
by mr.fred
22 Sep 2020, 17:14
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 2432
Views: 526609
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Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

while i don’t think that the lm turret at the time was as advanced as the bae one, it was much more advanced than trl1. https://youtu.be/rM2btez4tsc note the age of the video, for example. one thing that i’m always curious about everytime it is brought up: if there was an “anyone but bae” prejudice;...
by mr.fred
20 Sep 2020, 19:36
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 2432
Views: 526609
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Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

What about powering the RWS etc. I am not sure if the Ajax family have auxiliary generators enabling systems to be powered whilst the main power unit is switched off like some AFVs do. What would the RWS be doing during firing that it isn’t doing prior to firing? Does a solenoid draw that much power?
by mr.fred
20 Sep 2020, 19:14
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 2432
Views: 526609
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Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

bobp wrote:Anything to do with the engine revving up?
Could be, but why should it? It's not like firing a Browning should require any power.
by mr.fred
20 Sep 2020, 18:10
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Replies: 2432
Views: 526609
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Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Maybe the fumes rising from the front right of the hull every time it fires?
I don’t think that’s what it is, but i’m curious as to what else it could be.