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- 06 Apr 2024, 18:47
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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- 06 Apr 2024, 18:44
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6178
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
"Think small" option (if the budget do not rise sharply and man-power issue is just kept as is, (not getting worse, but not better either) It will need to be “think smaller” if nothing changes. It’s just more managed decline. Much more proactive to illustrate what 2.5% or 3% could provide...
- 06 Apr 2024, 15:20
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1937
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion
Investment in frigates, submarines and a reinforcement of the national air defence system to include missile defence sounds like a gd idea to me. It will be interesting to see if the Frigates and Submarines take a decade to build and commission like they do in the U.K. In the same place as they wer...
- 06 Apr 2024, 15:10
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1937
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion
I do doubt this review was done in isolation - if nations are looking for joint security and in that there is a focus on securing places to receive reinforcements, then the only two nations that would do that are US and to a degree the UK. I just can’t see that level of focus from the UK and the US...
- 06 Apr 2024, 09:34
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1937
- Views: 255340
Re: General UK Defence Discussion
It is welcome, it also highlights how far below the 2% of gdp they had fallen (around 1.4% presently) in that this will allow them to reach that target in about 3 years time. The main takeaways for me. • Regardless of the 2% debate, the worsening security picture requires a massive increase in defe...
- 06 Apr 2024, 00:05
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Future Royal Fleet Auxiliary
- Replies: 201
- Views: 351950
Re: Future Royal Fleet Auxiliary
RFA vote for strike action. https://www.nautilusint.org/en/news-insight/news/officers-at-the-royal-fleet-auxiliary-vote-for-strike-action/ Total disaster and frankly, completely unacceptable for RN to be put in a situation like this. Highly likely this will just hasten the demise of the RFA as we kn...
- 05 Apr 2024, 23:51
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1937
- Views: 255340
Re: General UK Defence Discussion
Clearly Norway got the memo!
A very commendable $60bn investment in defence spending.
https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/n ... id3032878/
A very commendable $60bn investment in defence spending.
https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/n ... id3032878/
- 05 Apr 2024, 23:43
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6178
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
We would have intelligence and surveillance to give us warning. We knew about Ukraine long before the attack happened. That gives you time to respond if you choose to heed the warnings. It’s not infallible. If a neighbour regularly exercises at scale on the border what is to stop a deep incursion a...
- 05 Apr 2024, 21:53
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Finlands military is orders of magnitude bigger and more capable than any of the Baltic states. So regularly exercising with and having the time to rapidly deploy to support them is possible. Finlands military is very capable but it would take time to fully mobilise the reserves and the length of t...
- 05 Apr 2024, 21:19
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6178
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
An alternative could be like some of the NATO owned a/c fleet, NATO / JEF could have a common pool of transport ships. Perhaps but could they be kept busy without a commercial element? Not if they are a one trick LSL. The vessel would need to be something along the lines of: • 80m LOA • A NATO stan...
- 05 Apr 2024, 20:02
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
I don’t know what you mean by difference? Very simple. The U.K. led Joint Expeditionary Force is a rapid reaction force which is great up to a point but the intention was never to persistently deploy into JEF members countries. Between 2014 and 2022 there was no major war in Europe at the scale we ...
- 05 Apr 2024, 19:26
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6178
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- 05 Apr 2024, 16:25
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Much to agree on which is refreshing! I would be looking at fast patrol/multi-role craft and the <100m catalogue of Damen LSL/LSTs. The 30m class, low profile, fast patrol craft would be ideal especially if well dock compatible and able to carry a modest load of TEU and RHIBs. The LSL/LSTs really n...
- 05 Apr 2024, 16:15
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
i.e. flipped 180° to vs the opposite direction of travel that the few brief comments on 2022 Future Commando Force modernisation programme, with all of it's talk about going back to RM Commando raiding party roots from WW2. A U-turn like that would be excruciatingly embarrassing but is it possible ...
- 05 Apr 2024, 11:19
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Well worth a read. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/04/us-navy-royal-rn-frigate-destroyer-submarine-russia-nato/. US Navy or Royal Navy – who’s best at hunting Russian submarines? Walk softly and carry a variable-depth sonar Today we’re going to discuss fighting Russian submarines using surf...
- 04 Apr 2024, 17:55
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6178
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
The reason for JEF was a group of 10 like minded nations that would come together to respond to or deter aggression using rapidly deploying forces with the uk as framework for it, along the Baltic, high north and North Atlantic. That grouping has been planning together for 10 years now. As that can...
- 04 Apr 2024, 12:10
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
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- 04 Apr 2024, 09:55
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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- Views: 1870175
- 04 Apr 2024, 09:49
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
What does scale mean? No country is ready to act effectively in those regions at anything beyond a few thousand troops - maybe on paper but the readiness/kit/logistics to sustain a large operation beyond a battle group isn’t there. Therefore, it’s all relative. I’m pretty sure the Norwegians, Swede...
- 04 Apr 2024, 09:10
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Because they are the artic and mountain warfare lead units Due to fact that NATO had a tiny land border in the Arctic. Now that Sweden and Finland have joined the majority of the land mass in the JEF region is in the Arctic or Sub-Arctic. If the Army isn’t willing to get persistently involved in th...
- 03 Apr 2024, 20:23
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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- Views: 1870175
- 03 Apr 2024, 19:34
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
I'm afraid these days it would be little more than a re-enforced Commando, perhaps squeezed to two Commands at a push?? How long that could these days be supported way up in frosty north is debatable.... Exactly my point. The U.K. wants to lead in the JEF region but the vehicles and kit of the Brit...
- 03 Apr 2024, 18:26
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Not on the scale required
If the Army had to deploy 1 or 2 Brigades north of the Arctic circle and sustain that deployment through an Arctic winter how would that go?
The simple fact is that the British Army isn’t equipped to do it.
- 03 Apr 2024, 17:18
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6178
- Views: 1870175
- 03 Apr 2024, 17:15
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
But we have also accepted leadership of NATO's Enhanced Forward Presence battle group in Estonia and we have signed specific defence treaties direct with both Estonia and Poland. So the focus is spread wider and hence more thinly than just southern Finland and Gotland. I’m not suggesting the Battle...