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by SW1
27 Feb 2024, 07:47
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 183958
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

Surprise Surprise. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/02/26/mod-to-be-denied-funding-boost-in-budget/ . MoD to be denied funding boost in Budget News comes despite rising geopolitical tensions and senior military figures warning about state of Armed Forces. Grant Shapps, the Defence Secretar...
by SW1
27 Feb 2024, 07:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 957
Views: 311543
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Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

Anyone know what the Echo Class crane could handle? Appreciate the A-frame probably isn't up to the task. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/HMS_ECHO_H87.jpg/1920px-HMS_ECHO_H87.jpg Wonder how much life we could have gotten from them if the money (and crew) was there. The cra...
by SW1
26 Feb 2024, 19:15
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 183958
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

by SW1
25 Feb 2024, 21:19
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 4067
Views: 950178
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Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Composites are the most complicated bit to get right consistently doubly so on aircraft with low observable characteristics. They will be being done at competent facilities with a close hold on the technology.

I doubt they will 3d print any primary structure.
by SW1
25 Feb 2024, 20:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 957
Views: 311543
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Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

Yes it does sound like the city class if that’s clearer. Stuffing all your eggs and multiple tasks into one big unsuitable basket does not equal growth. ??? we can get more LSV's for the price of City class purchases so if anything it is more baskets. Also in no possible world does the below sound ...
by SW1
25 Feb 2024, 18:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 957
Views: 311543
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Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

Did you read the Naval Architects paper? Tell me , does this sound more like the City class or the LSV's? 3.6 EMBARKING THE MCM TOOLBOX Unmanned technologies are evolving fast so the ship (which is designed for a life of at least 25 years) is expected to embark several generations of the MCM toolbo...
by SW1
25 Feb 2024, 17:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 957
Views: 311543
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Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

Not stubborn realistic. You clearly didn’t read the naval architects reasons of why such a vessel of the size and capability of the city class is optimal for mine countermeasures. What is also interesting is that it was UK naval architects analysis, then a whole other bunch of other naval architect...
by SW1
25 Feb 2024, 16:56
Forum: Deployments
Topic: Caribbean
Replies: 94
Views: 9867
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Re: Caribbean

by SW1
25 Feb 2024, 16:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 957
Views: 311543
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Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

No but none of that is on order yet, nor does it change the fact that the same mothership vessel may not be doing minesweeping and mine hunting. Wow you are stubborn. 1) Navy lookout article has said that the procurement of MHC block 2 has begun. Block 2 procurement has begun and is funded to deliv...
by SW1
25 Feb 2024, 15:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 957
Views: 311543
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Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

How have you entirely missed SWEEP/ ARCIMS and MHC bock .2?? I believe you are looking at this outdated NL article that only focuses on Block 1. https://www.navylookout.com/autonomous-systems-the-future-of-royal-navy-mine-warfare/ Block 1 entailed both your quote above and https://twitter.com/Gabri...
by SW1
25 Feb 2024, 15:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I would joined the Dutch,Belgium and French program and built around 6-8 vessels… Absolutely - 8 would allow the RN to commit a vessel permanently each to SNMCMG1, SNMCMG2 and Kipion, plus one “on call” for anything happening in UK waters. Make it 10 and we’ve answered the B1 River replacement requ...
by SW1
25 Feb 2024, 15:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 957
Views: 311543
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Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

I would joined the Dutch,Belgium and French program and built around 6-8 vessels… Absolutely - 8 would allow the RN to commit a vessel permanently each to SNMCMG1, SNMCMG2 and Kipion, plus one “on call” for anything happening in UK waters. Make it 10 and we’ve answered the B1 River replacement requ...
by SW1
24 Feb 2024, 22:40
Forum: Conflicts
Topic: RED SEA - Houthi attacks
Replies: 49
Views: 1635
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Re: RED SEA - Houthi attacks

RAF Typhoons have conducted a 4th round of air strike in Yemen

by SW1
24 Feb 2024, 21:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Thought this an interesting paper on the topic https://www.bmt.org/media/3054/rina-warship-2018-aitken-mcm-paper.pdf What? I believe this paper just argues for a mother ship; That is what LSV is. Give me a few minutes to read it. unmanned systems offer a revolutionary change to the concept of opera...
by SW1
24 Feb 2024, 20:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

We developed the system with France so what do we see that they don’t. The Dutch and Belgians was very close to UK MCM in the cold war much the same way as the Dutch marines were with 3 commando so what has changed. Wouldn’t be like us to add bespoke. Just because the french don't have the capabili...
by SW1
24 Feb 2024, 20:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

We developed the system with France so what do we see that they don’t. The Dutch and Belgians was very close to UK MCM in the cold war much the same way as the Dutch marines were with 3 commando so what has changed. Wouldn’t be like us to add bespoke. Just because the french don't have the capabili...
by SW1
24 Feb 2024, 18:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Are they just bigger torpedoes with a fancy name? If they are sensors how do we currently deal with underwater sensor systems? I am not disagreeing with any of that, simply that the technology is changing, the threat level is rising and the MoD is dithering with the future of MCM. There is no clear...
by SW1
24 Feb 2024, 17:09
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 4067
Views: 950178
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Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

They’ll be falling over themselves to buy the Boeing T7 red hawk knowing them.

Do the French currently assign alpha jets to rafale sqns to do similar?
by SW1
24 Feb 2024, 17:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Are they just bigger torpedoes with a fancy name? If they are sensors how do we currently deal with underwater sensor systems? I am not disagreeing with any of that, simply that the technology is changing, the threat level is rising and the MoD is dithering with the future of MCM. There is no clear...
by SW1
24 Feb 2024, 11:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I would say a buy of say 6 to 8 Sea Lancer could be a good thing they could be deployed across the RB1 , RB2 & T-31 classes Having all 5 T-31's capable of deploying SL would be useful Even a RB1 pulling a Sea Lancer in the the North Sea or Baltic would give Russian Sub commanders another thing ...
by SW1
22 Feb 2024, 17:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

But OPVs also contributes to show presence. Has an impact. Of course, it is not as much as an escort. Considering the huge huge difference in resource needed to do it, this is very natural. No one is saying an OPV can have the same influence as an escort. No argument. Either you consider the area a...
by SW1
22 Feb 2024, 16:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Diplomacy is basically broken down to how much money where does it go and what do I get in return. The law of economic warfare. Diplomacy is done by the diplomatic staff at the embassies across the world that presence is permanent where the decision makers are. If you don’t get what you want the co...
by SW1
22 Feb 2024, 15:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

3 weeks in hospital, whilst I tried to keep up reading threads with the briefest of replies when I had signal and/or battery and then a hurricane is directed at the Current & Future Escorts thread. And the cause at core of hurricane is OPV??!! I hope your on the mend and back to more regular co...
by SW1
22 Feb 2024, 15:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Soft power is a fiction. A fiction perpetuated by this government and its many shades since Blair, based on it playing nice in the media. There is economic power and there is military power. If China comes along and offers 10 new power stations on very east terms to Bangladesh or a nice new 500m do...
by SW1
22 Feb 2024, 11:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055763
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It isn't an obsession it is realty five are on order to replace the five T23 GP. The T31 isn't mediocre it provides a platform that is inherently easy to maintain, requires lower crewing and provides great range and capability cost effectively. It can scale from a more than competent light frigate ...