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by donald_of_tokyo
11 Oct 2018, 12:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

No money. We are even struggling to save T31 small budget.

It is good to discuss, but sadly lies in fantasy world. Or, we must propose to cut other field significantly. My proposal was to cut F35b, 5-7 of them to enable Venator 110. But not popular here .
by donald_of_tokyo
10 Oct 2018, 13:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I am sorry are saying that A ) BAE said they would build ships 7 & 8 for 1.3 billion or B ) the budget was cut by 1.3 billion and ships 7 & 8 were cut so there cost must of been 650 million each (A) is yes, as I understand. While, it has no relation to (B). As I understand, the budget of T4...
by donald_of_tokyo
10 Oct 2018, 11:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

correct but lets say you are right and we cut 1 type 26 and save 750 million giving a new budget of 7.25 billion the new unit cost of the remaining 7 ships is 1.035 billion per ship. And sure if they build 1 extra ship the unit cost per ship will come down but the budget will go up so if they add 7...
by donald_of_tokyo
10 Oct 2018, 10:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

T31e is NOT the smallest frigate, it is the largest (and with longest leg) corvette in the world. No irony, I really think so. Leanders range and endurance is impressive but when did RN change its policy to join the Corvette club? If this is a change based on strategic logic why did RN not build mo...
by donald_of_tokyo
10 Oct 2018, 10:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I bet buying more "less armed" T26 will be cheaper and more efficient. One question, when you say 450-500m GBP, is it unit cost or average cost? It differs a lot. T45 unit cost is ~650M, T26 is ~750M, not 1 billion. Their average cost is, yes, 1 billion. You see for me this is where so ca...
by donald_of_tokyo
10 Oct 2018, 02:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Leander on the other hand will never be a C2 or Tier2 Frigate at 117mX14m regardless of how many weapons your strap onto it. Agreed. It is NOT intended to be C2. Cost says so. Speech even says so. It is NOT a "warfighter". As an aside, Leander is quoted as requiring a crew of 120. This ap...
by donald_of_tokyo
09 Oct 2018, 17:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

A simple comment. As we seem to be going down the road of a C1 , C2 , C3 fleet...... The C1,C2,C3 strategy seems like a throughly sensible and cost effective way forward. Is current planning heading in this direction? I think we are currently on course for a C1,C3 setup as corvettes, long range or o...
by donald_of_tokyo
09 Oct 2018, 00:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 5461
Views: 1465341
Japan

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

JMSDF has its own long-range, super-sonic ASROC. It is using Japanese light-weight torpedo, which is much heavier than Mk.46/54. So, I think it can relatively easily accommodate Stingray if you like :thumbup: On the other hand, I think there will be two types of range requirements for ASROC. A- If t...
by donald_of_tokyo
08 Oct 2018, 14:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 5461
Views: 1465341
Japan

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Agree it is just a mistake. All information, including the CG, is on line with the T26 program as of 2013-2015. :thumbup:
by donald_of_tokyo
08 Oct 2018, 12:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 5461
Views: 1465341
Japan

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

The most interesting point. Delivery starts at 2023?
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Another comment; CG is old.
by donald_of_tokyo
08 Oct 2018, 03:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

SW1-san, Caribbean-san, Repulse-san, and others. I do think Leander has its own tasks in RN. My understanding of T31e UK is preparing the cost for "a typical heavy-corvette", never a light frigate. UK try to get a corvette-level armament ship, with enlarge hull for stable helo handling, la...
by donald_of_tokyo
08 Oct 2018, 02:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Anyhow, the Bae Corvette will certainly not sink in Norway or any other cold place due to ice. I have no idea why you think that. The standard offering is not ice capable meaning the hull hasn't been strengthened to resist pack ice. That does not mean it will capsize. Stability issue is rumor, I th...
by donald_of_tokyo
07 Oct 2018, 12:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

have heard naval architects in the past describe the khareef ships as cramped and poorly laid out as they tried to stuff to much on a small hull. Was waiting for someone else to say that I know there is such rumor. May be its true, but it all depend on how carefully you design it. One hope is, ther...
by donald_of_tokyo
07 Oct 2018, 03:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Hi donald_of_tokyo , I’m okay with a minor evolution, but as long as it’s not used to add another £50mn to a ship that should cost £200mn. It will have limitations for sure, but that’s the point build it to do the specific role be asked if it. Stability will not be "go OK with", I'm afrai...
by donald_of_tokyo
06 Oct 2018, 16:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

... When you look at it this way, and add on exportability and UK IP then we have a design already - it is called the Al Khareef. It is proven, similar to other ships operated by the RN, and should be quick to get started. Obviously, it would need RN systems (CMS etc) including re-use of the T23 ki...
by donald_of_tokyo
06 Oct 2018, 15:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

When we compare Legend-class and Heritage-class, the fact that the latter is "less than half" the price of the former is very interesting. I agree interesting comparison. In simplistic terms is it safe to assume very roughly that a Tier 2 Frigate should cost around £400m if built in the U...
by donald_of_tokyo
04 Oct 2018, 16:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

When we compare Legend-class and Heritage-class, the fact that the latter is "less than half" the price of the former is very interesting. - The only difference in armaments is CIWS - Top speed differs a lot, 28 knots vs 22+ knots. But, to do it Legened-class is using expensive GT. - range...
by donald_of_tokyo
04 Oct 2018, 13:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Cross post from USA thread ------- We all know US ship building cost is much different from (or expensive than) UKs. Because 4500t Legend-class cutter is $700M = 540M GBP, which is less-capable than 470M GBP unit-cost FTI (yes here I assume French cost is not much different from UKs, might be wrong...
by donald_of_tokyo
03 Oct 2018, 16:20
Forum: Defence Elsewhere
Topic: USA Armed Forces
Replies: 2089
Views: 108914
Japan

Re: USA Armed Forces

USCG Heritage class cutter, hull-1 has a contract with $317.5 million. The cost also includes "components and materials" for hull-2. Also, there was another $41.68 million contract for to procure long lead time materials of hull-1 at 1 year before. Looks like OPC hull-1 cost is roughly $30...
by donald_of_tokyo
03 Oct 2018, 15:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I just regard CAPTAS-4 CI (Compact Independent Tow) is a kind of "VDS". Even if it is written "VDS", it does not mean it does not include TASS.
by donald_of_tokyo
03 Oct 2018, 15:36
Forum: Defence Elsewhere
Topic: French Armed Forces
Replies: 1870
Views: 125833
Japan

Re: French Armed Forces

Surely this is going to impact sales of the Sylver/Aster combination. One of the key selling points of VLS is their ability to fire numerous types of weapon. It is a shame as the Aster 30 is probably the best naval SAM available at the moment. I am surprised that the A70 cannot mount SAMs though. V...
by donald_of_tokyo
03 Oct 2018, 01:02
Forum: Defence Elsewhere
Topic: French Armed Forces
Replies: 1870
Views: 125833
Japan

Re: French Armed Forces

From NavyRecognition: "French Navy Fitting Aster 30 Long Range SAM on its Last Two ASW FREMM Frigates" - At now, two FREMM-ASW are just replacing Silver A47 with A50. - Also, they are to be still using Aster15, because they need software update to handle Aster30. - Also interesting is the ...
by donald_of_tokyo
01 Oct 2018, 15:29
Forum: Defence Elsewhere
Topic: USA Armed Forces
Replies: 2089
Views: 108914
Japan

Re: USA Armed Forces

Beautiful it is. Congratulation Boeing, winning T-X. (also good for SAAB). I cannot stop designing a "light fighter" based on this hull, like Hawk 200 made out of Hawk 100. Of course, it intercepts with Gripens. But now Gripen is E, with F414 engine, while this T-X is more light, with F404...
by donald_of_tokyo
01 Oct 2018, 13:58
Forum: Defence Elsewhere
Topic: JAPAN / 日本
Replies: 456
Views: 44672
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The Japanese Navy 7th Atago Aegis class destroyer, the updated and ~1,000 tons larger 27DDG-179 Maya was launched end of July, the second follow on ship yet to be named, Maya's keel was laid April 2017 and only 16 months to launch, and is scheduled to be commissioned in 2020. Will be fitted with th...
by donald_of_tokyo
01 Oct 2018, 13:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19150
Views: 7058772
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

No "mushroom" onboard Argyll. In the Navylookout twitter, we can see all the Argyll's CAMM has taken off the top-hat = mushroom. Compared to the test movie, it looks like this flat-top rubber is the one "ready to fire". In other words, Argyll is carrying 32 CAMM ready? スクリーンショット...