Could someone answer if publicly known why the MOD thinks the challenger 3 in certain areas could be superior to the Abrams or leopard or is that just spin ? ,I don't know anything about tanks tbh but wouldn't have thought chal3 superior but hopefully yes on par with the latest upgraded Abram's/Leo ...

In reality jake1992 not often our 2 countries don't have the same objective but in any case we have 2 carriers so one could go for a USMC mission independent of what the other is doing ,RN only going to be operating one carrier at a time and other on standby , and if they were clever USMC would rota...

Thinking about things I think we should formally ask the USMC to permanently have a squadron onboard ,1) would help us out and they do have US forces permanently stationed here ,like fighter wing ,same in Japan Europe etc 2) we get our 24 f35 and would allow us too have big wing of 36 if needed or 2...

Ooh we should get the first of these ideas fielded about 2050ish I think ,after the yes we want it no we don't have gone through the motions ,but I tell you now we will be promised lots but only get 3

Well like I said after the deployment the USMC might really like the qe class and really ask to borrow HMS POW ,lol

Also should be said looking forward to operations with French c De g in med ,great photo op also should be also said with great thanks to France for keeping our skills alive thru the lean yrs ,we take the mick out of each other but they also helped us out when we needed it

Personally If the USMC asked to borrow HMS pow to fill a shortfall in operations / availability we should gladly do so with all the help they've given us ,not just to get the qe class up and running but tbh since ww2 , always had our backs ,at least they could try the full 36 f35 onboard and see how...

Can someone tell me how many Britains f35 and American f35 will be embarked on CSG 21 ,if someone knows ,or might be a secret yet ? I know last time we both trained think was only 5 British f35b and loads of helicopters and 9 USMC f35b but please correct me if wrong , cheers

What or wheres that pic from ron5 ,is that what it going to look like or just possibly look like ?cheers fella

Interesting article on RN site about an award to a team diagnosis and fix for fuel filter fault on Prince of Wales ,but also interesting that in the official web site stating 68k tonnes carrier , easily missed reading it in the article , would link but I'm rubbish at tech ie attaching stuff l, compu...

Cheers you guys ,like I said before don't think needs it or would happen but just wondered if possible ,and by your answers it could be possible ,50yrs service life along time and I quess we never know what future plans might be needed say 30 yrs from now ,so there is lots of scope if you guys are c...

Just been having another thought experiment today (slow day) but could a qe class be lengthened by having a middle section inserted ,not saying it needs one some say are too big anyway but could it be done or just impossible now ? Thanks

Well folks the truth is we better have 500 mk 41 and a zillion camm on it cos they probably only going to build one ,our future RN total AAW fleet of one type 83 lol

Personally I think we got the defence review we deserve ,from politicians who don't really know anything about defence to a public who doesn't care ,to a department who keeps mismanage programmes and overspend and get no results ,to Ruperts who just agree to what they told ,and can't decide what the...

Phil sayers you are probably right they way things are going ,6 destroyers now, reduced to 3 with the words that they are twice or 3 times as capable as the type 45 ,you know this to be true ,mark my words

Think the type 83 significance is probably just building a modern version of a cruisers ,like the Chinese type 055 , American Ticonderoga class ,or future Italian ddx destroyer, to sail with the carriers , personally I think will be in the 10- 12k ton range ,so not a derivative of a type 26 or type ...

In 24 escorts I mean both destroyers and frigates by the way ,soz

So 20 frigates and destroyers by 2030 ,I think I heard ,so no change ( maybe 1 more than now officially I think ) so not a growing navy of 24 escorts ,or am I mistaken ?

So it's not happening today , what's going on ? That much flack that they having a quick hasty rethink

Wondering if uk gov offering a couple of type 23 immediately as looking likely in review to be retired with the arrowhead 140 offer ?

Keep reading these headlines about the RN going to be the foremost naval power in Europe and still can't see it , sorry ,. maybe joint leading naval power with France ,but Italians coming up a close second and probably better when comes to more heavily armed escorts than RN in future ,I know I've sa...

If we could just get a few other Indo-Pacific countries interested in the carrier Tech or t31-2 frigates to achieve a signing on the dotted line ,that's the hard bit as always,alot of stiff competition out there and good kit also ,but hey fingers crossed as always

Nothing except the words ,we are going to be the leading naval power in Europe ,which is debatable in my view not including the nuclear armed subs ,think France or Italy might have a say ,ie France Def on par and Italians have a larger better armed escort fleet or will have than our few good ships a...

Well with all this reporting of f35 numbers down to 48 in different articles I think it's just a softening up exercise by the mod to get LM used to the idea we not ordering 138 and only about 70-90 ISH ?or a vague undisclosed open ended number but more than 48 ,So not as bad for them as could have b...

Topman ,I read your post to mean it's fantasy fleet time with me asking do people think something unexpected might be given as a sweetner