There is allot talk and what if's had various British projects gone ahead like TSR2 & Nimrod MR4 but what about the CVA 01 program could they have produced a viable carrier or would the treasury restrictions have delivered a white elephant?

this is the problem with idealists they have a very narrow view of the world. they are assisted unfortunately by poorly worded legislation and officials at all levels who misuse legislation for their own agendas. EG council officials who used counter terrorism legislation to spy on fly tippers and p...

I would say leave the Garrison and airbase as they are as we haven't the escorts to send the carriers! And F35b is still a very unknown quantity. Agree about Healey and Nott. Healey swore we'd not be operating east of suez again how wrong he was. But Ark Royal was on her last legs. Gannets, Phantoms...

we had same types of things happened in the 1970's under Labour they shaved every penny they could of the cost of the Type 21, Type 42 and Type 22 programs. The Navy paid the Price in 1982!

1: Change propulsion from CODLOG to CODAD, with reduced speed of 25kts, and with reduced noise cut requirements, to - lose 1 expensive MT30 GT. - lose 2 motors with power amps. - lose many noise dumping jigs (rafts, rubbers and what is more, proper balancing on them) - need Diesel engines with abou...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_syst ... Royal_Navy

we can move into the 30's all the way to 40 and still be ASW

and reduced spec light gp frigate worked really well last time round! We could reduce the spec of the T26 without sacrificing too much quality for the GP role. The T26 will be the world best anti submarine frigate when it enters service. If you are building a ship filled full of ASW gear, acoustic ...

General purpose frigates or type 86 would be a better description

its a shame their updates were left so late in their career.

"reduced spec " in the past lead to PVC coated cables, single fire main infrastructure and polyester uniforms all of which contributed to losses in the Falklands

abc123 wrote:I would love to know what is "general purpose" frigate? Because I can't imagine anything more "general purpose" than Type 26...

type 26 is an anti submarine biased ship

and reduced spec light gp frigate worked really well last time round!

reading through the arguments about not having this or that system on board reminds me very much of the 1970's arguments about its missions and the need for lower capabilities. Coupled with the our allies will provide and we'll use more capable ships to do high end operations. Or we'll never have to...

GP frigate maybe 117m long, beam 12.7m powered by COGOG displacing about 3,300 tonnes at full load sound reasonable?

would changing the propulsion save money cutting the Gas Turbine and going all Diesel?

there's a couple of Jaguar Groups on facebook.

Bae have tried more than once to exit UK surface shipbuilding. Low margin, feast or famine, agressively unionized, excuse of a business with the world's worst customer. Said customer, the UK goverment twisted their arm to buy up the remnants of Vospers to build the carriers. The Bae board would wee...

no LMM on Merlin
No LMM on Apache
No LMM on land platforms
No LMM Drones
No Starstreak on Apache
No Sea/Starstreak on Type 45, Type 23, Type 26

http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/French- ... story.html

another reason we need a rethink of how we protect our coastline. Yes smuggling has been part of the history of the South West but in the past we could do more about trying to stop it!

looking at next year could we see Foxhound deployed on UK streets? in support of a Police force?

there are military-legal draw backs to hospital ships especially in the era of AShM that cannot differentiate between types of vessels. Argus is a very flexible platform it can be used for a variety of roles one being PCRS.

yes the damen vessels are goo but do think a bore integrated approach is needed with jointly manned and funded vessels from a variety of agencies like MAF border patrol etc

we have a different set up from the US where their customs is a paramilitary force that does marine law enforcement and SAR and in times of war becomes part of the navy I met deployed coasties in Iraq.

L118/L119 will probably be as long lived as the 25 Pounder and in the light role will be difficult currently to replace

If LMM is available as a bolt on multilauncher like was envisaged with seastreak. If it could be fired from a starstreak Aimer unit on a land LML it could b deployed like Javelin and S15 where by the RA AD Troop and RA on armilla patrol in the optical role.