So MROSS 2 possibly not a new build as promised? Which would actually make a lot of sense in many ways.

BTW the declared aim of the type 32's is to provide a superior platform for deploying unmanned assets i.e. the thing that the type 31's are particularly useless at. Have you got a quote for that? I read that it should have a focus on unmanned I have also read that it should support the LRGs ie act ...

https://twitter.com/redunley/status/1656191181460766721?s=61&t=v3p-ar2-83ikQMvwFZgTCA Classic thread: No-one knows for certain why Australia selected the Type 26/Hunter for a multi-billion $ order because the minutes of key meetings have been lost. I can personally relate to this. No-one knows w...

The XV's getting a new 3D surveillance radar to trial. https://www.saab.com/newsroom/press-releases/2023/saabs-giraffe-1x-wins-uk-ministry-of-defence-orders One of these would be a decent upgrade for the River B2s. People are always talking about upgunning them but giving them a decent radar would p...

Opportunity for Babcock to supply a joint class of fast attack craft for Sweden and Ukraine? https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/naval-warfare/sweden-rethinks-plans-for-new-ships-second-generation-visby-plans-in-flux/ So if they’re looking for something larger than a corvette, why would it be an opp...

Personally, I want 4th and 5th E-7, top-level BMD and "24 CAMM" for T45, and 6-12 SeaGuadian UAVs for ASW, much much more than I want to up-arm T31.

I’d certainly prefer all of those to a “sloop”.

It's obvious that the Type 31s are too lightly armed. That's because of the procurement process that challenged industry to meet a specific price-point. The alternative to the Arrowhead 140 was a much smaller vessel equally as poorly armed. It's absolutely crystal clear which the RN wanted. It's the...

Moved over from the Falklands thread @ wargame_insomnica I have noted previously that I believe several ships in the RN have been built bigger than they need to be for their actual armanent. That is why I would like to see ship in between RB2 and T31, a 105m-110m sloop fits that perfectly, as minim...

Moved over from the Falklands thread @ wargame_insomnica I have noted previously that I believe several ships in the RN have been built bigger than they need to be for their actual armanent. That is why I would like to see ship in between RB2 and T31, a 105m-110m sloop fits that perfectly, as minim...

More on the reasons for the selection here

https://www.navylookout.com/developing- ... 1-frigate/

shark bait wrote: ↑30 Jan 2023, 15:21 The video says Heavy RAS is fitted, I thought that had been scrapped?

Seems to indicate not HRAS unfortunately.

SW1 wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 19:45 Opportunity for a career in a region of the U.K. where there is jobs but not a lot of careers can be an attractive option.

Yep, I accepted a job in Cornwall when I was young and single and accommodation was being thrown in with the package.

Recruiting 300 people in trades where there’s a national shortage… in north Devon!? Right next door to Cornwall one of the most deprived Counties with a high proprotion of poorly paid tourist based jobs. Might be easier than you think to recruit staff I’m sure you’re right. And there are plans to u...

Recruiting 300 people in trades where there’s a national shortage… in north Devon!?

shark bait wrote: ↑30 Jan 2023, 15:21 The video says Heavy RAS is fitted, I thought that had been scrapped?

I suspect what Rolls Royce developed as Heavy RAS and what Navantia are now calling Heavy RAS are different things.

Nice to be proven wrong though.

BMT have already developed a design, the Venator 90… let’s call it a sloop-of-war… https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Q2vgnBilvzw/Wu76TTiTv1I/AAAAAAAAFU0/5kdznHOzRNAvoE4pyIdWyyKSOVkPF9lRACLcBGAs/s1600/BVT%2BVenator.jpg It’s not a design. It’s some (very old) marketing material.BMT referred to it as a “reco...

With a new CGI

This is a promotional CGI so it means nothing. But how many CAMM at 1:32?

Returning to NEWS: Rosyth celebrates steel cut on second Type 31 frigate https://des.mod.uk/type-31-steel-cut/?portfolioCats=1235%2C735%2C78%2C734%2C69%2C726%2C290%2C722%2C1146%2C1221 During a ceremony at Rosyth dockyard today, Defence minister Alex Chalk cut steel for HMS Active in the presence of ...

Tempest414 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2023, 11:36 Lets not forget that type 31 will also be carrying a Wildcat with 20 LMM

But we do know is the RN has placed a contract for 57 & 40mm 3P rounds for T31

£65 million contract with BAES in Nov 22 covering 3P, simulation and support.

I hadn’t noticed that paper had been published here. Most enticing paragraph is: As such, it is important to note that at the time of writing (May 2022) the capability that has been identified so far in open source material only comprises some of the systems included within the initial design & ...

So that’s why:

This article is based on a paper submitted to the International Naval Engineering Conference, November 2022 by James Johnson (Type 31 Frigate Transversals Engineering Manager) and Matt Howard (Chief Engineer, Arrowhead-140), Babcock International, Bristol.

Said it before, will say it again. Good luck in recruiting and training an entire workforce in Belfast.

How many young people want to be shipbuilders, especially given the industry's reputation for making mass redundancies?

How long before Plan B has to be invoked? - build in Spain.