This is a better view from the side, looks like the wing mirrors have been removed. The remote weapons station seems quite high off the ground. Pretty common, if not to avoid shooting them directly, I don't imagine that the muzzle blast does anything good for them either. The article mentions that ...

I didn't realised they mounted a warrior turret onto Patria, is there any detail on what was included in the box launcher? I'm sure it was very functional but hardly a work of art. It popped up again in green, with a different launcher: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mlL6Tgy4i_o/maxresdefault.jpg Javelin w...

That RT60 turret is quite far back on the Boxer. Wonder if that hurts gun depression. Wouldn't want any of those hatches open if the guns are live, or if those smoke launchers are loaded.

Sure, look how well that worked out for the F-35 Difficult to do the comparison without three programmes covering each variant separately. I suspect it would have cost rather more if each version had its own radar, different engines etc. Wiki says only 25% is common between variants but doesn't say...

Yes RT60 was first fitted in 2021 for a ME state it is a step in the right way but as said above is RT60 the best would the Warrior upgrade turret be a better place to start with CTA-40 fitted To go with the Warrior turret you'd have to take the hit to internal volume since it was manned and throug...

If we could have 160 fast jets that are world-beaters in both air combat and ground attack penetrating heavily defended airspace then that would be the better way to go but I wonder whether it might be more affordable / effective to have two different variants (despite the additional cost of having...

Phil Sayers wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 14:29 No, I meant Tempest but split into two variants; one with a similar (but broader) role to the F-15C and one with a F-15E role.

Given that Typhoon runs as a swing-role aircraft, wouldn’t we expect and prefer, that Tempest is the same?

mrclark303 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 19:22 the US isn't a possibility, they have no interest in operating British military equipment,

M252, M777, M68 and Harrier suggest otherwise.
Granted all are made under license, but still...

mrclark303 wrote: ↑06 Jun 2023, 19:24 Yes, massively so Fred...

Would you care to give examples?

Interesting take on it, now look a little further, the actual 'effect' on GDP from defence related UK procurement is massively less than the drain on the actual defence budget driven by that politically driven policy. Is it? You actually support tail wagging the dog procurement? I think that procur...

I simply don't buy into the view of UK manufacturing draws expenditure back into UK coffers, (it might do), but those coffers are separate from the MOD budget, so your defence budget buys you less and less and the military continue to contract in an ever decreasing death spiral.... If the MoD budge...

Forced onto the Army by a government happy to hamstring the armed forces to keep the Wasteland factory going at any cost... A sort of tail wagging the dog insanity! It's an excellent Naval helicopter to be fair, but even then they haven't funded the dipping sonar for the RN, so even there it's been...

Track noise seems less rattly than previously, and you can hear traffic noise over the engine at points.

You've read the same think defense article everyone else has. Yet I draw vastly different conclusions from it than you do. It was more expensive because BAE proposed building a new turret and submitted a realistic price for it. But BAE would have had little to no non-recurring expenses LM with no e...

mrclark303 wrote: ↑14 May 2023, 11:49 It's a curious one, is it really possible to set up the digital bus and avionics interface, develop hard points and trial it that fast???

If you are able to make it with restricted functionality and without full safety checks, probably.

BAE had already received certification on their manned and unmanned turrets and had decades of experience working with warrior, when they said the turret needed replaced while it was a more expensive option it was significantly less risky. If that is remotely true, how in the world would it have be...

BB85 wrote: ↑13 May 2023, 14:16 Ah yes, so it was. An even more bizarre decision.

How so?

Yes, but would that have been “transformational”? Compared to where we are now? Very much so. More even than that if we'd kept up with the upgrade path. would there be anything in sending a Warrior to John Cockerill to see if they could fit a 3030 turret to it and if so how easily it could be done....

I bet we end up with "Warrior 2000" by default Taken literally, with the redesigned hull, more powerful engine and dual-axis stabilised turret mounting a Mk44 chaingun, that would be a pretty good option. Doubt it will happen though. With hindsight, it would have been the better option, w...

Would point out at the Battle of Agincourt that particular 'dumb argument' was spectacularly successful, the arrows costing pennies won out over the French medieval knights hugely expensive armour Equally, the cost ratio wasn't exactly a factor in the outcome of that particular battle. In any case,...

IFV's have always had a secondary anti-air capability with autocannons against helos in particular. But...its not really trained, the ammo was not ideal, turrets didn't have high enough slew rate or elevation, appropriate sensors not mounted etc. With CTA40mm we finally had a good gun for the job, ...

Been saying for years that every IFV has to have a secondary robust AD capability, with the emphasis on robust... But what do you mean by robust? All the ingredients are there....modern autocannon with programmable ammunition, cheaper missiles coupled with automatic guidance from fire control syste...

I wasn't aware Warrior ever had ERA. Found a Janes article from a little while back. Referred to as WRAP 2 https://defense-update.com/20080918_britichurgentoperationalrequest-2.html#.ZFVWqS_MKgQ The ERA was fitted in Iraq but taken off for Afghanistan; https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9a/2c/95/9a2c9555a8e...

RunningStrong wrote: ↑05 May 2023, 11:09 New armour on Warrior?

Looks like TES fit, but without the ERA fitted

sol wrote: ↑14 Apr 2023, 12:59 Do you think the British Army ordered 62 Recce / FSV variants without reason?

Yes?