Not so exciting nor pressing? If I had to sum it up in a couple of sentences they would be: We asked the Treasury for more money and they said no so we have nothing to refresh and therefore this document is a complete waste of time. All outstanding issues still unresolved but due to the general ele...

Vague drivel written by committee in the hope no one reads it. Long gone are reviews that set out prioritise, the force structure required to meet those priorities and by when so the government of the day can be held account accordingly. I agree clear as mud but dumb thing for me is we don't even h...

Here it is.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... tile-world

Here it is.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... tile-world

Forward deploying to Perth sounds good, but spreading a small fleet even thinner. There's a lot of value pushing the drone sub development to try and pad out the small submarine fleet the Navy will have in the North Atlantic. And if that is XLUUV or even XXLUUV will these be operated by LRG(S) or a...

- Interesting is the sonar is "BlueHunter (or KINGKLIP Mk2) hull sonar" and "CAPTAS-2" (not 4) VDS-TASS. IMO this is the most interesting takeaway. If the lack of a sonar capability on the T31 is going to be solved with a modular system as hoped by many, 2087 was never going to ...

For me what would be a good out come would be to hulls 1 & 2 with 24 to 30 CAMM and 8 x NSM then start fitting Mk-41 from hull 3 on then at the first 5 year refit fit Mk-41 to hulls 1 & 2 If this isn’t current planning then it probably should be current planning. It’s time to maximise the T...

Polish specification confirmed.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... -frigates/

Construction to start at Barrow in 2027/2028.

When will the cutting stop?

https://breakingdefense.com/2023/07/uk- ... rbus-exec/

What has NATO got to do with a conflict in the Indo Pacific? If NATO expands too far its effectiveness will decrease. Many euro countries will not send forces into a conflict outside of Europe. The alliance will crumble if the politicians try it. An ISAF/NATO Afghan structure won’t work in the Indo ...

DS to resign. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/07/15/ben-wallace-to-resign-defence-secretary-general-election/ Reading between the lines sounds like he tried to squeeze as much money as he could out of HMT but the funding envelope is now sealed. Staggering for the DS to predict the UK will ...

donald_of_tokyo wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 18:19 But you can grasp her design.

Thank you.

Very Interesting design.

donald_of_tokyo wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 13:55 Osumi class….

Do you have any info on the hanger dimensions?

Joint venture with the Marinha Portuguesa? To enable this the following specific capabilities would be required. - accommodation 200 mission specific crew - hangar for 2-3 Merlin sized helicopters / UAVs - flight deck with two helo landing spots and short runway / ramp for STOL UAVs - T26 sized mis...

What could RN get for £0.5bn if bought an off the shelf amphib design? Could we get something smaller than Mistral, possibly closer in length and displacement to Osumi? Why £500m? Six MRSS will cost at least £2.4bn if constructed in the UK. Especially if it’s a new design. Added to that is the T32 ...

Apache? Are they stealthy enough for all FCF deployments? Does deck launched HIMARS have a role? Also, I think, Osumi class like vessel modified with her bridge and funnel further shifted to starboard may well operate MALE drones. But MALE must prove their capability before discussing this. Luckily...

...The Navy needs the amphibious ship's to balance the carriers effect. Simple operations, that can maintain lots of days at sea and be dispersed globally. They need to be what the River class are to the Destroyers. In that case, the Amphibious ship must be a Bay at most, or even smaller (like Osum...

I am describing a low cost helicopter carrier in the style of the Ocean class with a crew of 190 to 230 ( Oceans crew was 265) capable of supporting a LSU + SF units but also capable of using emerging tec like MALE drones RN has to change from this fixed crew allocation model to a core number plus ...

If the LRGs are only conducting HADR and facilitating SF why even bother with RM at all? The role of the RMs is bigger than LRGs, as you’ve pointed out combined with the CSG it will be a capable force, just not in the traditional war fighting brigade that people still seem to cling on. How do you s...

Cuts coming to pay for this from existing budgets.

If money has gone to CEPP it’s because it’s the priority, it is one of the few top tier levers we have. Its a question of balance. The fleet must achieve a credible balance. Going all in on CASD and CEPP is not smart unless other capabilities are maintained. If not, adversaries simply adapt and ope...

What are you expecting this “forward deployed rapid reaction littoral force” to do? And where? If it’s anything more than limited HADR or a SF raid in a low threat maritime environment (not sure where this is actually a scenario) then the group will be waiting for the CSG in any case. Better to ens...

I’m also concerned that part of the LHD discussion is about replaying the CVF discussion. LHDs can have limited fixed wing capabilities, but that’s it they are limited. The CVFs are real aircraft carriers designed to go up against peer nations and sustain air operations for a long period. Again, co...

new guy wrote: ↑12 Jul 2023, 20:22 what is CEPP?

Carrier Enabled Power Projection