I understand T31 will have a bow sonar fitted when they are being outfitted. Interesting. Out of curiosity, from where these hull-sonars will come? T23GP looks like going to be exported. Even if not, their S2050 hull sonar are not going to be upgraded to S2150 (like those onboard the 8 T23-ASWs), w...

Wouldn't we all like to know! It may be the up gunned T31, it may be a copy of whatever is pitched to the polish - it might be something else entirely, complete with hull plug and ski-jump for verti-drones. We don't know. Wouldn't pay much attention to the numbering of the type though - if the next ...

Encouraging news indeed.

If we were going to make T31 everything it could be - what would it be?

Full 32 MK41 or more? Could T32 be lining up for a cut-throat T4X replacement competition?

I've seen it in all the stories I've read this quarter that T31 in uk service will have 24 camm.

It's probably because they never listen to the amount they're given!

With the news of a rumoured 5-10% uplift to the defence budget over the next 5 years, where do we think it will go, escort wise, if it materialises?

2bn EUR, this puts the price of a T31 with 32 camm at roughly £360m.

Not bad i'd say.

I was always told those s1850s could bounce their signals off the ionosphere also, delivering continent scale early warning to a certain extent.

Not sure how reliable that information is, however.

It might be that the high volume low cost swarm drones used by an aggressor aren't all weather capable. This may leave complex missiles the only alternative for an aggressor and guns cost effective again.

There's been a few mentions of putting 15 EXLS silos in the space reserved for the 16 MK41, and similarly replacing the harpoons with the same exls on the Type 45s, in the harpoon's place. This is all important because it reduces the vulnerability of the main AAW escort to air based saturation attac...

I'm not entirely convinced on the quality of ESSM, the only engagement I have memory of had 3-4 of them being fired without success. ESSM has only been used in combat once (that we know of), when the USS Mason was engaged off Yemen. No-one knows if the attacking missiles crashed into the sea, were ...

I'm not entirely convinced on the quality of ESSM, the only engagement I have memory of had 3-4 of them being fired without success.

Eventually caught by seawolf in 2003 of something if memory serves.

Range isn't everything!

No point in having an interceptor if it blasts straight past.

Artisan isn't perfect but it's definitely adequate for the RNs needs.

Australian and Canadian versions are using their own sensors.

No I don't think so however with the US and now Canada moving to a missile based CIWS system how long can we go on pretending that 48 missiles is enough. We know there is room for 16 Mk-41 VLS cells behind the the current VLS cells so maybe we could fit 9 to 12 ExLS cells in there place allowing fo...

I disagree - I'd definitely say fending off saturation attacks should be a higher priority than anti ballistic missiles.

Propulsion of course - but we already have trident, and saturation is far more accessible than carrier killing ballistics for potential competitors.

The advantage, if there is one, is probably cost.

It is the right decision to make because the ships have plenty of space for the lower concentration of CAMM. If it takes more space, but we get more CAMM launchers onboard overall:

It is a no brainer.

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/28267 ... 6jzprenx9I

The above has the order at 100sm2 for the fleet. Would be surprised if their AAW are sailing with 6.67 per ship (assuming missiles are taken out of storage for maintenance etc).

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2020/november/9237-mbda-sea-ceptor-air-defense-missile-system-selected-for-canadian-navy-surface-combatant-ships.html The above has the Canadian T26 at 24 MK41 and then 48 sea ceptor. I understand they're having an asw and aaw variant, mig...

I believe SoftBank is Japanese which makes Arm Japanese by that logic.

But the company remains firmly anchored in the Silicon Roundabout / Oxford / Cambridge triangle and it's talent remains there with it.

If who owned it was important - we'd still be using GNI instead of GDP!

ADA would be the programming language and not the operating system, (and kind of suprised they wont switch to C++ if that is true about ADA, it is 2020 now!). Despite it's issues which are understood and can be managed, it brings a lot quantum of productivity tools with it that the ADA ecosystem wo...

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Don't get me wrong I'd love to see every DS-30M mount get a Martlet pannier on the side, but I suspect if its an easy clip on kit we're likely to see more purchased than if it turns into a extensively modified mount (like the SeaHawk Sigma from MSI).

Improves redundancy too!

And here was me thinking that RFA Fort Victoria is an rfa that offloads fuel, solid stores, can embark more than 150 additional personnel and has a large flight deck hanger and embark about 5 merlins and even embarked landing craft. Wonder what it’s role is at present. Huh? NaB says that a common h...

Seeing that CAMM is limited by line of sight datalinks, not sure that more range than CAMM-ER is worthwhile, and I'm not entirely convinced CAMM-ER is worthwhile in the first place. Bigger boosters have to be traded off against minimum engagement range which, for a last ditch weapon, is kinda criti...

Moving over here from the Type 31 thread If we wanted to up type 31s CAMM we could even out missile loads between type 26 and type 31 by removing 12 CAMM from each T-26 = 96 if we split these between the 5 T-31's this would give them 19 extra missiles meaning if they started with 12 they would end ...

If their pilot interface is anything like the PlayStation 10 or whatever it will be, I imagine it will be good to have onboard.